War Crimes Justice

[Albany Rifles]

Colonel...excellent point. Been awhile since I fell under their purview so I am a little rusty on those facts. Not the least bit surprised you are up to date on them as you had to live them day to day in The Balkans.

[m a x]

[Officer of Engineers]

Fail again. NO WESTERN MILITARY OFFICER EVER needs to worry about the Rome Statues. Our own laws are enough. Australia demonstrated that. Not A SINGLE Filed Officer EVER needs to the read the RS. Get off that forse now. Full Stop.

And before you say you said nothing about military officers, yeah, you're a full liar.

Good, yet not enough for an Army professional in today's World changing environment. Parties to the Geneva Conventions are required to search for, try and punish anyone who has committed or ordered war crimes, under Articles 129 and 130 of Third GC -- https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/INTRO/375 . As far as the federal USA does not apply this law for war crimes of its personnel committed on territories under International criminal court jurisdiction, You should have already read and been well aware of the Rome statute provisions -- https://www.icc-cpi.int/resource-lib...nts/rs-eng.pdf

And given how Jordan gave a big fuck you to the ICC about arresting Al-Bashir, the ICC is more than useless when it comes to enforcing anything.

And learn the freaking difference between signatories and treaty members. Those who signed without ratification are obeying the treaty, as a good will gesture, through executive order instead of legislation.

You're a real crap shoot law student, let alone anything close to resembling a lawyer.

[m a x]

.. NO WESTERN MILITARY OFFICER EVER needs to worry about the Rome Statues. ..

We are not discussing Rome statues here

.. Our own laws are enough. Australia demonstrated that. ..

Australia has implemented the Rome Statute provisions into domestic legislation, as already quoted from the Afghanistan Inquiry Report

.. Not A SINGLE Filed Officer EVER needs to the read the RS. ..

Not knowing the Law gives no excuse for breaking it. Nine Australian soldiers have already killed themselves, although it is yet to be found as of how much this suicidal tendency is related to the published Report
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/132718...es-afghanistan

[Oracle]

Colonel, I think it's time to unleash your hounds.

[Officer of Engineers]

We are not discussing Rome statues here

Backtracking here, aren't you. This entire thread is about your BS.

Australia has implemented the Rome Statute provisions into domestic legislation, as already quoted from the Afghanistan Inquiry Report

Horse Puckey! The only thing the Australians did was to acknowledge the ICC authority to issue international warrants. They DID NOT give the ICC jurisdiction over their own domestic jurisdiction.

Not knowing the Law gives no excuse for breaking it. Nine Australian soldiers have already killed themselves, although it is yet to be found as of how much this suicidal tendency is related to the published Report
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/132718...es-afghanistan

Again, horse puckey. The Austrlaians ALREADY 100% STATED THAT BOTH THE RS AND THE ICC HAVE ZERO JURSDICTION! The Australians are being prosecuted UNDER Australian Law. And yes, those Australians did know the Law. It's called the Queen's Rules and the Law of Armed Combat. They did not need to know the RS and frankly so does no one else. The Australians ALREADY STATED that the ICC HAS ZERO JURSIDCTION.

If you cannot understand that, then don't pretend on how laws work because you clearly don't. The RS has ZERO impact on any legal actions on the part of the Australians. They are proceeding according to Australian law that existed long before the RS was a wet dream. The Defence Act (1903), the Law of Armed Combat, and the Queen's Rules and Orders. The RS DOES NOT come into this no matter how much you want to jerk off that it is.

You can take the toilet paper RS and use it for whatever you want but it ain't for prosecution of the Australians.

[m a x]

Most people comprehend correctly -- https://www.worldaffairsboard.com/fo...39#post1568739 -- even as it may be hard for them to accept. So, face the reality. Justice is coming

You obviously cannot read the bolded part. ...

Others point at parts of sentences, that in this case explain the principle of complementarity under ICC jurisdiction, to claim there is no effective International Law. Which is just the opposite from what the Report says

[Officer of Engineers]

Most people comprehend correctly -- https://www.worldaffairsboard.com/fo...39#post1568739 -- even as it may be hard for them to accept. So, face the reality. Justice is coming

I don't know how many times it has to be pointed out to you. Your quote is saying Australia is telling the ICC to fuck off. Australian Law has jurisdiction - NOT INTERNATIONAL LAW.

Others point at parts of sentences, that in this case explain the principle of complementarity under ICC jurisdiction, to claim there is no effective International Law. Which is just the opposite from what the Report says

I know you're not a math student. ISIS has committed over 9000 acts of barbarity alone and the ICC in her entire history has only 144 indictments and none of them is about Iraq. Al-Bashir still walks free even though he travelled to RS Signatory countries. The ICC even chickened out reporting Jordan to the ASP and the UNSC. International Justice? What a bunch of horse puckey. Just another bunch of walking clusterfucks more concern about $10,000 night hotels than spending a night out in the Field talking to victims.

Find me one single ICC suit in Afghanistan!

[m a x]

There are currently 10 preliminary examinations, 13 situations under investigation, 28 cases and 13 defendants at large that ICC works on and can be read about at the ICC website. With more international support in future it is expected more of the committed war crimes to be taken for due investigation and legal charges. Along the principle of complementarity under Rome Statute, however, as Australia shows, bringing war criminals to justice is even to grow wider with involvement of the Sates parties' Judiciary authorities at national level. Wherever war criminals are not held accountable, albeit beyond the RS jurisdiction, this, with no doubt, represents some kind of undercivilization that bears further negative consequences for its own development

[Officer of Engineers]

There are currently 10 preliminary examinations, 13 situations under investigation, 28 cases and 13 defendants at large that ICC works on and can be read about at the ICC website.

Translation: The ICC is doing shit all. The MILITARY has done FAR, FAR, FAR more than the ICC could ever dreamed of. We KILLED ISIS. That alone has done far more than "10 preliminary examinations, 13 situations under investigation, 28 cases and 13 defendants at large."

With more international support in future it is expected more of the committed war crimes to be taken for due investigation and legal charges.

Only when our tanks rolling through their streets. Here's the thing YOU DON'T GET. 99 times out of 100, the locals will let the fucks go if that means the killings stop. They DON'T WANT US TO GO AFTER THE FUCKS BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE WAR STARTS AGAIN.

Along the principle of complementarity under Rome Statute, however, as Australia shows, bringing war criminals to justice is even to grow wider with involvement of the Sates parties' Judiciary authorities at national level.

Complentarity means fuck the ICC. An Australian investigation will will use Australian laws to bring Australian criminals to Australian justice and the ICC can go fuck itself. Your entire quote makes this point. Australia WILL NOT SURRENDER JURISDICTION to the ICC whether the ICC likes it or not.

By the ICC's website, they have zero enforcement capabilities

Wherever war criminals are not held accountable, albeit beyond the RS jurisdiction, this, with no doubt, represents some kind of undercivilization that bears further negative consequences for its own development

How nice of you to ignore the fact that the ICC are nothing than a bunch of Chickenshit robes. The UKR is under ICC jurisdiction since 2014. It has brought forth a complaint against Russia that Crimea was illegally seized. Is there anything on the docket to put Putin on the list? Then, there is still Al-Bashir. The ICC doesn't even have the balls to report Jordan's non-compliance to the ASP and the UNSC (not that it will do any good).

There has been four - FOUR - ICC Convictions and 1 of them is Comptempt of Court. We KILLED a 1000 times more fucks than that! We've done more in 1 week than the ICC did their entire history. The military was in the mud and blood doing real protection while your ICC was too lazy to leave their $10,000 a night spa and too chickenshit to stare down real power.

Yes, we have fucked up also but our fucks will answser to our justice and the ICC can go fuck itself. We frankly do not trust the ICC one iota. That's what the Australians are telling the world. The ICC will NOT have jurisdiction over Australian justice.

[m a x]

Legal justice is always complex matter that requires time, proficiency and careful work, even more at international level. It is not like shooting at the enemy to destroy it

[Officer of Engineers]

Legal justice is always complex matter that requires time, proficiency and careful work, even more at international level.

What a wonderful bullshit excuse. The fucks will die of old age before the ICC will ever get to them.

It is not like shooting at the enemy to destroy it

We spend more time and dedication to find them and to kill them than the ICC would have to leave their nice hotel room. We do a 1000 times more work per week at getting the fucks than the ICC ever did in their entire existence.

Compare to what the military does, the ICC is a kangaroo court manned by a bunch of ambulence chasers.

[m a x]

.. will die of old age before the ICC will ever get to them. ..

Not only ICC, but in general. Some, as Hashim Thaçi for example, live long in highest level political positions and are widely accepted as heroes before the trial begins