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    Federal USA and Netanyahu's Israel believe they are not to be held responsible, but it is not necessary for a state to have had admitted the ICC jurisdiction in order for its personnel to be held accountable for committed war crimes on a territory under ICC jurisdiction

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVsaCPSGZJo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxYqBu5L_w
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...n-says-it-cant
    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019...ian-war-crimes

    No sovereignty may justify war crimes against International law and there should be no doubt that, as far as it is used to prevent legitimate prosecution and trial, both the federal USA and Netanyahu's Israel are going to get justice

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...Criminal_Court
    https://www.icc-cpi.int/resource-lib...nts/rs-eng.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_War_documents_leak
    Last edited by m a x; 13 Jun 20,, 09:19.

  • #2
    Seems the ICC is SOL. Judging by List of international prime ministerial trips made by Benjamin Netanyahu - Wikiped, no one is arresting Netanyahu. I've heard talk since the march to Baghdad that Bush Jr and Rumsfeld were going to be tried by NATO allies with ICC jurisdiction. Those NATO allies change their laws real quick to prevent such a thing.

    Private citizens have brought forward court cases in those countries but good luck in getting a court date with the defendants present. Netenyahu, Bush Jr, Rumsfeld, or whomever you want to name ain't obligated to show up.

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    • #3
      France announced that „.. This decision represents a serious attack on the Court and the States Parties to the Rome Statute...“: https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/fr...ns-against-the

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      • #4
        So what? The US, Russia, and China don't recognize the ICC. They can go pound sand as far as these three is concerned.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
          So what? The US, Russia, and China don't recognize the ICC. ...
          See the map at ICC wiki source. Europe, incl. UK; Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, the entire South America, Mexico, half of Africa .. And you say you are Canadian, do you
          Last edited by m a x; 14 Jun 20,, 10:55.

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          • #6
            Matters squat all. Canada cannot and will not prosecute the US, Russia, nor China on ICC crimes and frankly neither will anyone else.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
              .. Canada cannot and will not prosecute the US, Russia, nor China on ICC crimes ..
              Let those convicted of war crimes in due process go to Canada and we'll see. One must be really a Flinstone character to claim such International institution is /quote/ "kangaroo court". I know how often it's necessary to have mass protests and violence in America to get uniformed murderers to justice
              Last edited by m a x; 14 Jun 20,, 21:00.

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              • #8
                Well, since no one has convicted nor even arrested Netanyahu, George Bush Jr, nor Rumsfeld ... nor Putin on the UKR and Xi on Tibet, I don't think they're scared one single bit to visit Canada

                CPAC Special: Israeli Prime Minister Visits Canada | CPAC

                Seems someone here is a Barney Rubble character screaming about ICC kangaroos ... and it ain't Netanyahu, Bush Jr, Rumsfeld, Putin, nor Xi.
                Last edited by WABs_OOE; 14 Jun 20,, 21:11.

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                • #9
                  But you see it is not at Washington already to have a leading role of global community ever since. And there are no grounds to judge against Russia and China while being the same along international criminal lines. Russian and Chinese personnel, of course, are also to be prosecuted when there is enough evidence of committed crimes under ICC jurisdiction. As of crime-ministerial level it is clear Netanyahu keeps his power with more and more violations of International law. And there are no doubts of where this is going to lead

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by m a x View Post
                    But you see it is not at Washington already to have a leading role of global community ever since.
                    Again, who cares. Washington DC is sanctioning the ICC and the ICC can do dick all to respond.

                    Originally posted by m a x View Post
                    And there are no grounds to judge against Russia and China while being the same along international criminal lines. Russian and Chinese personnel, of course, are also to be prosecuted when there is enough evidence of committed crimes under ICC jurisdiction.
                    ICC judgement has already been filed against Russia for Crimea and Tibet for China. Just a bunch of paper that is more worthless than toilet paper.

                    Originally posted by m a x View Post
                    As of crime-ministerial level it is clear Netanyahu keeps his power with more and more violations of International law. And there are no doubts of where this is going to lead
                    As evidenced by List of international prime ministerial trips made by Benjamin Netanyahu - Wikipedia, no one cares enough to arrest him, let alone try him.

                    Don't really know where you're going with this. The ICC ain't going to touch Netanyahu no matter how much you wanted so. The evidence is staring right at you in the face. No country is intereseted in arresting him, let alone try him for the ICC.

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                    • #11
                      I strongly suspect Amnesty, with ties to PETA, Greenpeace, and the Indian veg foundation.
                      Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                        Originally posted by m a x View Post
                        But you see it is not at Washington already to have a leading role of global community ever since. ..
                        Again, who cares. Washington DC is sanctioning the ICC ..
                        Exactly. Again, the guilt of several criminals is taken to federal level by people who don't care

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by m a x View Post
                          Exactly. Again, the guilt of several criminals is taken to federal level by people who don't care
                          Are you that dense? The ICC can't even legally protect itself against US sanctions and no one, not even France, is doing squat to stop the US, let alone punish the US.

                          The ICC is 100% toothless against the big boys. Hell, it's even toothless against the middle powers. Canadian General Lewis MacKenzie, hell even CANBAT itself had been accused of war crimes by the Serbs and the Croats. Ottawa ignored it and the ICC CANNOT even investigate the allegations.

                          You are really dense if you think anyone cares about what the ICC says or do. It's only power is NATO and what NATO says goes, NOT the other way around. Guess who is top dog in NATO. It ain't the ICC head judge.

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                          • #14
                            Justice is neglected and disrespected by many until it comes. The International Criminal Court is not a temporary tribunal

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by m a x View Post
                              Justice is neglected and disrespected by many until it comes.
                              Yes, it's called a war.

                              Originally posted by m a x View Post
                              The International Criminal Court is not a temporary tribunal
                              Sure, a toothless tiger is really good for display but it ain't scaring no one and it hell ain't scaring Netanyahu. You did notice that Netanyahu did visit the Netherlands in 2016, home of the ICC and guess what? Zilch, Nadda, Crap All, zero, kaputs. The ICC did absolute squat with Netanyahu on its doorsteps.

                              Wake up and smell the coffee. NATO is not willing to goto war to arrest Netanyahu or anyone else in the US, Russia, or China.

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