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  • Originally posted by astralis View Post
    z,



    he did, but only after he got an understanding from the judges to really take a good hard look at what to oppose...because opposition for opposition's sake would result in said packing.

    right now, the Roberts court has done a pretty good job of not enflaming liberal opinion to the point where packing the court is a must do. as far as I'm concerned, it's a "nice to do", because of the stupid games that McConnell played with Garland...and it would be sweet revenge. but, for the time being it's not worth the flame of doing so.



    "forcing consensus" my @$$. when was the last time the filibuster -promoted- bipartisanship? when did the filibuster force the parties to come to a moderate consensus?

    the filibuster was DESIGNED as an emergency mechanism to force consensus; then it became used as a cudgel against civil rights; and the modern day incarnation is that it's used on a routine basis to stop anything that doesn't have 60 votes, and in this hyper-polarized environment, that's almost never. it forces the US into a Polish Parliament situation where things turn into utter crises before any action can be taken.

    i'd much, much rather see the filibuster destroyed and a later Republican Party using 50 votes to say, pass a capital gains tax cut. because if the people don't like it, they can vote that party out of power.

    experimentation, instead of paralysis.



    the EC is designed to protect small states, but in our environment where Party is king, it protects a certain party, not states. when was the last time anyone gave a damn about Hawaii, or Rhode Island, or Mississippi?

    but, I'm not too concerned about the EC given current trends.

    as I wrote earlier, North Carolina is 4 years behind Virginia and is on the cusp of flipping blue. Georgia 4 years behind that; Texas, another 4 years. once Texas goes, the GOP will be -desperate- to change the EC.



    uh, no, in 26 states, a third party collecting ballots is perfectly legal. and the few times where there's actually evidence of fraud...it's been on the GOP, like in North Carolina's 2018 elections.

    again, though, this is not a "Democratic" or a "Republican" issue. like mail-in voting, the actual party gain is fairly even.



    so what? taxation without representation still applies.

    I certainly agree it would benefit the Dems, which is why I'm all for it.

    but that's on the GOP. if the GOP refuses to even so much as compete for urban or minority votes, then they deserve what's coming to them.

    there's absolutely no reason why the GOP cannot successfully compete in those three areas but for the fact that they refuse to change their own unpopular policies.



    and REDMAP? and McConnell purposefully holding up confirmation of Obama judges so he could have an empty slate when a GOP President came in, what about that as well?

    bottom-line is the GOP has been aggressive about using "hardball" political tactics that smash norms, because the GOP knows their popularity trendline is fundamentally going down. that's precisely why they called 2016 a "flight 93 election".

    these things are terrible for a democratic society. I would much rather have Congress be able to negotiate instead of ramming through things on a party-line vote. however, there is NO incentive for the GOP to stop wrecking norms for political gain...until they get a nice big glass of reciprocity.
    Is there something off with the forum? I keep getting logged out or getting error messages.

    Had a long reply wrote but not interested in doing it again. In short the fact that you ignore Harry Reid's norm breaking and put the blame on the GOP highlights your bias blinders.

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    • Originally posted by zraver View Post
      Is there something off with the forum? I keep getting logged out or getting error messages.
      It's ill http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/sho...2&goto=newpost

      Copy any long posts you make before you hit reply.

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      • A Statement By Former Republican National Security Officials

        We are former national security officials who served during the administrations of Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and/or Donald Trump, or as Republican Members of Congress. We are profoundly concerned about the course of our nation under the leadership of Donald Trump. Through his actions and his rhetoric, Trump has demonstrated that he lacks the character and competence to lead this nation and has engaged in corrupt behavior that renders him unfit to serve as President.

        For the following reasons, we have concluded that Donald Trump has failed our country and that Vice President Joe Biden should be elected the next President of the United States.

        ​1. Donald Trump has gravely damaged America’s role as a world leader. Trump has disgraced America’s global reputation and undermined our nation’s moral and diplomatic influence. He has called NATO “obsolete,” branded Europe a “foe,” mocked the leaders of America’s closest friends, and threatened to terminate longstanding US alliances. Other global leaders, friends and foes alike, view him as unreliable, unstable, and unworthy of respect.

        ​2. Donald Trump has shown that he is unfit to lead during a national crisis. Instead of rallying the American people and the world to confront the coronavirus, Trump has spent the past half year spreading misinformation, undermining public health experts, attacking state and local officials, and wallowing in self-pity. He has demonstrated far greater concern about the fate of his reelection than the health of the American people.

        3. Donald Trump has solicited foreign influence and undermined confidence in our presidential elections. Trump publicly asked Russian president Vladimir Putin to assist his 2016 campaign, called on Chinese president Xi Jinping to “start an investigation” into his current political opponent, and pressured the president of Ukraine to act against his opponent. Citing exaggerated claims of voter fraud, he has challenged the integrity of this year’s election, even suggesting that it be postponed.

        4. Donald Trump has aligned himself with dictators and failed to stand up for American values. Trump has regularly praised the actions of dictators and human rights abusers. He proclaimed his “love” and “great respect” for North Korean strongman Kim Jong Un, endorsed “brilliant leader” Xi Jinping’s move to serve as China’s president for life, repeatedly sided with Vladimir Putin against our own intelligence community, and pronounced himself a “big fan” of Turkish president Recep Erdogan despite his crackdown on democracy.

        5. Donald Trump has disparaged our armed forces, intelligence agencies, and diplomats. Trump has attacked Gold Star families, scoffed at American prisoners of war, interfered in the military justice system, and embroiled our military in domestic politics. He has ridiculed US intelligence agencies and falsely branded our nation’s diplomats as the “deep state.”

        6. Donald Trump has undermined the rule of law. Trump has compromised the independence of the Department of Justice, repeatedly attacked federal judges, and punished government officials who have sought to uphold the law. To protect himself from accountability, he has fired officials who launched investigations or testified against him, threatened whistleblowers, dangled pardons as incentives to stay silent, and blocked prison time for a political crony convicted of lying on his behalf. He has impugned journalists investigating his misconduct and has repeatedly denounced the press as the “enemy of the people.”

        7. Donald Trump has dishonored the office of the presidency. Trump engages in childish name-calling, mocks the disabled, belittles women, persistently lies, peddles baseless conspiracy theories, and continually embarrasses Americans in the eyes of the world.

        8. Donald Trump has divided our nation and preached a dark and pessimistic view of America. Trump consistently seeks to incite political, racial, and ethnic divisions, weakening our nation and delighting our adversaries. In contrast to Reagan’s vision of America as a “shining city on a hill,” Trump speaks of “American carnage,” pits Americans against each other, and stokes fears that “angry mobs” and “anarchists” are destroying our country.

        9. Donald Trump has attacked and vilified immigrants to our country. Trump routinely denigrates immigrants and inflames prejudices as he seeks support for his reelection. Despite America’s legacy as a nation of immigrants, he has demonized Americans who come from other countries, even telling members of Congress whose families immigrated to the United States to “go back” to the “crime-infested places” from which they came.

        10. Donald Trump has imperiled America’s security by mismanaging his national security team. Trump has dismissed or replaced — often by tweet — the secretaries of State, Defense, and Homeland Security, the Attorney General, the Directors of National Intelligence and the FBI, three National Security Advisors, and other senior officials in critical national security positions, many because they refused to cover for his misdeeds or demonstrate sufficient personal loyalty.
        While we – like all Americans – had hoped that Donald Trump would govern wisely, he has disappointed millions of voters who put their faith in him and has demonstrated that he is dangerously unfit to serve another term.

        In contrast, we believe Joe Biden has the character, experience, and temperament to lead this nation. We believe he will restore the dignity of the presidency, bring Americans together, reassert America’s role as a global leader, and inspire our nation to live up to its ideals.

        While some of us hold policy positions that differ from those of Joe Biden and his party, the time to debate those policy differences will come later. For now, it is imperative that we stop Trump’s assault on our nation’s values and institutions and reinstate the moral foundations of our democracy.

        To that end, we are firmly convinced that it is in the best interest of our nation that Vice President Joe Biden be elected as the next President of the United States, and we will vote for him.

        Adm. Steve Abbot
        Fmr Dep Homeland Security Advisor

        Mary Catherine Andrews
        Fmr Special Asst to the President

        Richard Armitage
        Fmr Deputy Secretary of State

        Christopher Barton
        Fmr Director, NSC Staff

        John Bellinger
        Fmr Legal Adviser, Dept of State

        Adm. Kenneth Bernard
        Fmr Special Asst to the President

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        Fmr Deputy National Security Advisor

        Linton Brooks
        Fmr Under Secretary of Energy

        Kara Bue
        Fmr Dep Asst Secretary of State

        Amb. Richard Burt
        Fmr US Ambassador to Germany

        Victor Cha
        Fmr Director, NSC Staff

        Thomas Christensen
        Fmr Dep Asst Secretary of State

        Eliot Cohen
        Fmr Counselor of the Dept of State

        Joseph Collins
        Fmr Dep Asst Secretary of Defense

        Heather Conley
        Fmr Dep Asst Secretary of State

        Chester Crocker
        Fmr Asst Secretary of State

        Patrick Cronin
        Fmr Asst Administrator, USAID

        Amb. Sada Cumber
        Fmr US Special Envoy to the OIC​

        Mike Donley
        Fmr Secretary of the Air Force

        Raymond DuBois
        Fmr Acting Under Secretary of the Army

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        Gary Edson
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        Richard Falkenrath
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        Aaron Friedberg
        Fmr Dep Asst to the Vice President

        Janice Gardner
        Fmr Asst Secretary of the Treasury

        Amb. James Glassman
        Fmr Under Secretary of State

        David Gordon
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        Colleen Graffy
        Fmr Dep Asst Secretary of State

        Michael Green
        Fmr Senior Director, NSC Staff

        Sen. Chuck Hagel
        Fmr Secretary of Defense and US Senator

        Gen. Michael Hayden
        Fmr Director of the CIA and the NSA

        Amb. Carla Hills
        Fmr US Trade Representative

        Ash Jain
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        James Kelly
        Fmr Asst Secretary of State

        Rep. Jim Kolbe
        Fmr Member of Congress

        David Kramer
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        Stephen Krasner
        Fmr Director, State Dept Policy Planning

        Ken Krieg
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        Amb. Frank Lavin
        Fmr Under Secretary of Commerce

        Rep. Jim Leach
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        Bruce Lemkin
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        Michael Leiter
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        Amb. Winston Lord
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        Peter Madigan
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        Bryan McGrath
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        David Merkel
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        John Mitnick
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        Holly Morrow
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        Amb. John Negroponte
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        Elizabeth Neumann
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        Sean O’Keefe
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        Daniel Price
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        Dov Zakheim
        Fmr Under Secretary of Defense

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        Fmr Counselor of the Dept of State
        Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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        • Originally posted by zraver View Post
          Is there something off with the forum? I keep getting logged out or getting error messages.
          Yes, the forum has been slowly dying for the past 5 years. We're on borrowed time.
          Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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          • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
            TBM, Intellectually eloquent.
            Do you have any words for the violent and malicious anarchists raging in some cities that appear to be aligned with you politically?
            Well thank you but I am surprised you understand the words ethics, principles, dignity and honor. Study or a dictionary? I know you didn't look into a mirror.

            As for eloquent there are many forms. I could be face to face with Trump and explain my dislike of him in very eloquent and sophisticated terms. Most all of which would go right over his head. Rather than have that happen I would need to dumb down my approach and make it more basic if he is to understand. Sometimes the quick and short approach using just two words can accomplish far more in getting a thought across. Getting a thought across in just two words? Now that is eloquent!

            Being a centrist I do get to look both left and right. The anarchists on the left are out in the open and don't worry me much outside of property damage. The anarchists on the right are far more sinister and hidden so consequently they concern me more because they want to cause Constitutional damage. The ones on the left are amateurs while those of the right are more professional, dangerous and in larger numbers. Do you not agree since you are a libertarian, so you say...
            Last edited by tbm3fan; 24 Aug 20,, 04:57.

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            • The anarchists on the the left have caused $100’s of millions of damage to US Cities, but probably into the $billions now. Some inner cities are to become urban deserts again. This is a plight that was essentially corrected in the 90’s after the damages incurred from the riots of the late 1960’s.
              Please list the infrastructural damage that the large “insidious” damage cause by the the alleged right anarchists? Are they operating gyms? Championing the 2nd Amendment?
              I’m sure you are aware that Biden only believes the use of single shot or double barreled shotguns.
              He does not want citizens to own pump shotguns, any semi automatics or handguns of any kind.
              Last edited by surfgun; 24 Aug 20,, 11:53.

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              • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                Yes, the forum has been slowly dying for the past 5 years. We're on borrowed time.
                Ahh, well all things must come to an end.


                I've missed some of you (Colonel) but many of those I miss most are no longer with us.

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                • z,

                  Had a long reply wrote but not interested in doing it again. In short the fact that you ignore Harry Reid's norm breaking and put the blame on the GOP highlights your bias blinders.
                  of course i'm biased -- everyone has their own blinders.

                  but let's take your example here, of Harry Reid. yeah, he broke the judicial filibuster and the executive branch nomination norm -- because the GOP was blocking all of Obama's picked judges for lower court, and his own staff.

                  i know what the riposte will be; but Robert Bork! etc, etc.

                  again, and i'm being as NON-partisan as I can be in this analysis -- the GOP has been at the forefront, and much more systematically aggressive, about norm-breaking, precisely because they know that their long-term prospects are poor. this is an enormous incentive for them to act first while they still have political power, rather than later.

                  this is reflected in the WAY both parties act towards norm-breaking. REDMAP was celebrated by the GOP as being innovative and bringing scentific, statistical vigor in gerrymandering to screw over Democrats in a legal way. Mitch McConnell literally laughed when a reporter asked if he would wait until the election was over if a Supreme Court vacancy came up this year.

                  meanwhile, Dems are wringing their hands over blowing up the legislative filibuster if they win the Senate, with Manchin, Tester, Sinema saying they were opposed (for that matter, Biden himself).

                  in any case, at this point in time, trying to assign blame is all but meaningless. what's clear is that unspoken norms, understandings, "this just isn't done, old chap" isn't sustainable for the Senate/Congress any more. if we can't get compromise, i'd rather have single-party legislative efficiency; ie, if one political party can actually win both the executive and the legislative branch, then let them execute their POLICY vision.

                  this would actually lower the overall political temperature, because that means not every political fight needs to be a war to the knife anymore.
                  There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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                  • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                    A list of things that would die if the Donkey Party would win?
                    F-15EX
                    F/A-XX, F-35C will do, despite the Navy wants an Aircraft with long legs.
                    Any Columbia class SSGN’s
                    SSNX, just get by with new build Virginia’s
                    A dumbed down Bradley replacement
                    6.5mm small arms may or may not survive?
                    Get by with new build Blackhawks and kill off the high speed successor?
                    Kill the Ch-53K.
                    That is off the top of my head.
                    Shit.
                    Now I'm even agreeing with surfgun ...
                    Trust me?
                    I'm an economist!

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                    • Originally posted by astralis View Post
                      z,



                      of course i'm biased -- everyone has their own blinders.

                      but let's take your example here, of Harry Reid. yeah, he broke the judicial filibuster and the executive branch nomination norm -- because the GOP was blocking all of Obama's picked judges for lower court, and his own staff.

                      i know what the riposte will be; but Robert Bork! etc, etc./quote]

                      Actually Reid v Bush.... Harry Reid fillibustered the hell out of Bush nominees and then torched the fillibuster when the shoe was on the other foot. If you want a root cause villian there he is.

                      again, and i'm being as NON-partisan as I can be in this analysis -- the GOP has been at the forefront, and much more systematically aggressive, about norm-breaking, precisely because they know that their long-term prospects are poor. this is an enormous incentive for them to act first while they still have political power, rather than later.

                      this is reflected in the WAY both parties act towards norm-breaking. REDMAP was celebrated by the GOP as being innovative and bringing scentific, statistical vigor in gerrymandering to screw over Democrats in a legal way. Mitch McConnell literally laughed when a reporter asked if he would wait until the election was over if a Supreme Court vacancy came up this year.
                      Again this goes back to broken norms

                      quote]meanwhile, Dems are wringing their hands over blowing up the legislative filibuster if they win the Senate, with Manchin, Tester, Sinema saying they were opposed (for that matter, Biden himself).

                      in any case, at this point in time, trying to assign blame is all but meaningless. what's clear is that unspoken norms, understandings, "this just isn't done, old chap" isn't sustainable for the Senate/Congress any more. if we can't get compromise, i'd rather have single-party legislative efficiency; ie, if one political party can actually win both the executive and the legislative branch, then let them execute their POLICY vision.
                      Single party systems trash individual rights. The Dems don't just want single party between an election, they are actively trying to create the conditions where they are the only party (that matters) in an election. The ballot harvesting, court packing etc is all part of the effort there is a reason they were running around saying demographics is destiny. I don't think it is, but you and they do.

                      quote]this would actually lower the overall political temperature, because that means not every political fight needs to be a war to the knife anymore.[/QUOTE]

                      I though you had a better grasp of history than that. Have you seen whats been going on? Political violence in the streets is becoming the norm. Your black shirts are actively pursuing direct action against their political enemies. They are not even pretending anymore. A couple of nights ago in Portland they were dragging a guillotine through residential streets while the burned American flags. Those are your boys, aided and encouraged by the bulk of the American Left.

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                      • Originally posted by zraver View Post
                        Packing the court is a way to bypass Congress, even FDR ultimately shied away from it.

                        The fillibuster is useful in slowing down government and preventing single party authoritarianism. It is a useful tool to force concensus. If the parties are so divided then the one who thinks its just such an important issue should go try and win an election. Ending the fillibuster is a way to disenfranchise voters once removed.

                        The EC protects minority voices. If you really wanted a fairer system then award EC votes based on who won the congressional district with popular vote winner getting the +2 senate votes. It by-passes the winner take all and hamstrings jerry mandering. Won't happen becuase doing that would restore an electoral voice to places like Up State NY, rural California and all of Illinois outside of Chicago. Given voters a voice isn't really whats behind the drive to nix the EC.

                        Third Party ballot harvesting is only legal in California and has already dubiously swung several elections there. Letting party activists collect votes or letting third parties handle ballots in general is a bad idea. It destroys integrity and opens the door for all sorts of mayhem.

                        Making Guam, PR and DC states is only a fad as a way to pack the senate. Especially DC where the concentration of money and power is already so concentrated that the area has more millionaires than even silicon valley.

                        They are all schemes that add up to an enabling act to establish 1 party rule by a party that has turned decidedly red.
                        The Hughes Court (1930-41) wasn't to be expanded to get past congress. It was to be expanded to get past the Hughes Court. The four-man conservative wing blocked one too many of FDR's New Deal policies, so he tried to expand it. It failed, but if it had passed, POTUS would be empowered to appoint an additional justice for every one over the age of 70-1/2 years.

                        FDR didn't shy away from it; congress defeated the plan.
                        Trust me?
                        I'm an economist!

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                        • GVChamp,

                          Kamala Harris was the 14th (of 19) candidate to drop out of the race, out-lasting Hickenlooper, Gillibrand, de Blasio, O'Rourke, and 10 others. That's a long ways from running “an ineffective campaign that ultimately flamed out before the contest even started.”

                          Credit where credit's due: the woman beat just under 75% of the field.

                          As for Warren, the last time a major party nominated – on either end of the ticket – a former member of the other party (Warren was a GOPer before seeing the light) was Ronald Reagan, and that didn't work out so well.

                          tbm3fan defined this year's contest in two words that work really, really well for most Americans.

                          .Funny how people protesting far too many decades of police brutality can be accused of causing hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars of damage, but one orange Mussolini can shave a trillion or more off the national economy and still find enough GOPers to get renominated.

                          I guess we can now drop the notion of the GOP as the party of business, just like we dropped the silly idea that it was the party of fiscal responsibility or the party of Lincoln.

                          But, to criticize Joe Biden for being an originalist on constitutional matters? Really?
                          After all, when that phrase about “arms” for a well-ordered militia was drafted, there were no pump-action shotguns, or large capacity magazines, or semi-automatic rifles, or …?
                          Trust me?
                          I'm an economist!

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                          • Originally posted by DOR View Post
                            But, to criticize Joe Biden for being an originalist on constitutional matters? Really?
                            After all, when that phrase about “arms” for a well-ordered militia was drafted, there were no pump-action shotguns, or large capacity magazines, or semi-automatic rifles, or …?
                            Oh for Pete sakes, this is the most stupid arguement you can get. You want a "well armed milita" without "pump-action shotguns, or large capacity magazines, or semi-automatic rifles, or …?" to face foes with tanks, howitzers, nuke carrying bombers, and nuke tipped rockets.

                            I have news for you. If you didn't have the arms industries you had, you would be speaking Spanish, Japanese, or Russian by now and your much touted Consitution? Mexican, Japanese, or Russian toilet paper.
                            Chimo

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                            • Originally posted by DOR View Post

                              But, to criticize Joe Biden for being an originalist on constitutional matters? Really?
                              After all, when that phrase about “arms” for a well-ordered militia was drafted, there were no pump-action shotguns, or large capacity magazines, or semi-automatic rifles, or …?
                              No internet or abortion either.... Come now ye fine fellows, let us converse with quill and parchment and ye'ladies get back to the kitchen until its time to make babies.

                              Never mind that a militia needs arms in common with the military ie 5.56mm. You also misunderstand militia. Its not the national guard its citizens protecting each other. When our country was young, it was beset with hostile parties: British forts in the West, hostile Indians, Pirates, river gangs and outlaws. Militias were local to deal with local problems and the federal call up was a decidedly 3rd place duty. Much of the militias duties were superseded by law enforcement but the Dems calls to defund the police and tactic encouragement of street violence is going to bring the traditional community militia back in vogue. Oh and in case anyone misses the obvious, wide spread community militias are often the opening muscle of civil wars. One of the great benefits of professional law enforcement is it reduces the need for drilling on the commons.... The citizen could keep arms for home defense and hunting but wasn't really part of the wider community efforts at controlling crime.

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                              • z,

                                I though you had a better grasp of history than that. Have you seen whats been going on? Political violence in the streets is becoming the norm. Your black shirts are actively pursuing direct action against their political enemies. They are not even pretending anymore. A couple of nights ago in Portland they were dragging a guillotine through residential streets while the burned American flags. Those are your boys, aided and encouraged by the bulk of the American Left.
                                you're actually proving my point.

                                same with Charlottesville, with the rancher protests, the Proud Boys, III%, the Boogaloo, etc.

                                bottom-line is CURRENT legislative paralysis is what gives the extremist groups oxygen. moreover, it's why each President -- Trump now, Obama before him, Bush before that-- have relied more and more on executive powers. and are popular FOR overreaching, because they're at least attempting to do what Congress simply will not.

                                this is beyond specific ideology. the current system as it is gives enormous political incentives for an overreaching executive branch, Dem or GOP. it also pushes people to seek extralegal redress for their concerns, precisely because they know everything dies in the legislative branch. ultimately this weakens the Party system and democracy altogether because Congress cannot address their concerns.
                                There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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