new Cold War?

[Officer of Engineers]

Then it's their problem

You've lost that fight more than once ... and that's when you were still a superpower.

[Doktor]

You've lost that fight more than once ... and that's when you were still a superpower.

Superpower or not, people forget lessons from the past. To be clear, same goes for US led alliances.

[Officer of Engineers]

No, I'm actually speaking of the USSR.

[Doktor]

No, I'm actually speaking of the USSR.

So am I. Just added that the remaining superpower forgot those lessons, too.

[zraver]

You've lost that fight more than once ... and that's when you were still a superpower.

They won more than they lost....

[Officer of Engineers]

I'm not aware the US has lost territory wheras the USSR lost the Baltic States, the Ukraines, and Georgia.

[Versus]

So, the idea of resurrection of USSR seems to be the solution for all problems, huh? It figures, since one super power cannot exist without another (otherwise it implodes under its own weight), its a binary system and they feed on each other. God this is so sickening, reminds me of my marriage. Yuck!

[Doktor]

I'm not aware the US has lost territory wheras the USSR lost the Baltic States, the Ukraines, and Georgia.

USSR dissolved.

[zraver]

I'm not aware the US has lost territory wheras the USSR lost the Baltic States, the Ukraines, and Georgia.

Look at the size of pre-industrial Imperial Russia say 1800ish before it really took off and peaked under the Soviet Union. Compare that map to modern Russia and you'll see how eve rmuch they lost, they are still much bigger than they stated stretching from the Pacific to Central Europe. There are still people who grew up as Germans or Finns who are now Russians.

[Doktor]

Z,


On some of those maps Crimea is in Russia and so is Finland. You have to be more precise ;)

[Parihaka]

Russia may have regained its pride and damaged itself in Western eyes. But a new cold war? Not likely.

If I were examining this purely from a western perspective I'd have to agree. But looking at Putin from that perspective, his actions make little sense, other from the much touted 'morale raiser' for the Russian people, which isn't much of a perspective. If you view it as a means of isolating his people, including the nouveau riche, and bringing them more firmly under his control, consolidating himself as the new tsar and imposing yet more control in the name of 'fighting off' the evil westerners, then his actions make much more sense.
The west doesn't want a Cold War, we want to trade. Putin wants a Cold War, because it consolidates his power.

[Versus]

Z,


On some of those maps Crimea is in Russia and so is Finland. You have to be more precise ;)

That's the spirit, old maps and the answer for the future is always in the past....Wait until Mongols hear about this, I am sure that they are planning the return as we speak.

[Doktor]

That's the spirit, old maps and the answer for the future is always in the past....Wait until Mongols hear about this, I am sure that they are planning the return as we speak.

Mate, we know how dangerous old maps are. There is always some older map out there.

[Officer of Engineers]

USSR dissolved.

The Baltic States didn't leave quietly. And Georgia fought a mini civil war.

[Versus]

Mate, we know how dangerous old maps are. There is always some older map out there.

I like one with the buried treasure. I know that very well, just, I thought that that was our specialty but now I am afraid that the spirits of Milosevic,Tudjman and Izetbegovic have possesed hearts and minds of bigger leaders.