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    Migrant crisis: Germany 'to start border controls'
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    More than 13,000 migrants arrived into Munich on Saturday alone
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    Germany is to reintroduce some form of controls on its border with Austria to cope with the influx of migrants, German and Austrian media report.
    It is not clear what measures would be introduced.
    More than 13,000 migrants arrived into Munich alone on Saturday. Germany's vice-chancellor said the country was "at the limit of its capabilities".
    Germany's Bild newspaper and Austria's Kronen Zeitung said controls would be in place on the Bavaria-Austria border.

    Germany expects 800,000 migrants to arrive this year.

    Some migrants spent the night in Munich station
    The German Interior Minister, Thomas de Maiziere, is expected to make an announcement in the coming hours.
    Last month, Mr de Maiziere said the Schengen agreement, which allows free movement between a large number of European countries, could be suspended.
    Kronen Zeitung said that Bavarian police will begin to carry out checks "to determine immediately who is entitled to asylum", but it is not clear how such checks would be made.
    What are the current border rules?
    The European Union's Schengen zone, implemented in 1985, allows passport-free movement between member countries
    26 European countries participate, but not the UK or the Irish Republic ,,,,,,,yayyyyyyyyy
    Schengen signatories can re-impose border controls for short period for "public policy or national security" reasons after consulting "contracting parties".

    What next for Germany's asylum seekers?

    Europe as a whole is struggling to deal with an enormous influx of people, mostly from Syria but also Afghanistan, Eritrea and other countries, fleeing violence and poverty.
    As well as the 13,000 who arrived on Saturday, another 1,400 arrived in Munich on Sunday morning, police said.

    "We lack 1,000 to 5,000 places," Munich Mayor Dieter Reiter told the Sueddeutsche Zeitung (in German).
    The authorities are considering using a sports venue from the 1972 Olympics, the Olympiahalle, as a temporary shelter.

    Germany's vice-chancellor said the rate at which migrants were arriving was straining Germany's ability to cope
    Earlier on Sunday, Germany's Vice-Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel, who is also economy minister, warned the country was being stretched to its limits by the new arrivals.
    Last week, Mr Gabriel said Germany could take in 500,000 asylum seekers a year for several years.,,

    And thats just bit you on the arse
    . ??




    "Europe's inability to deal with the migrant crisis has brought even Germany to the limit of its capabilities," he told Der Tagesspiegel newspaper (in German).
    "It is not just a question of the number of migrants, but also the speed at which they are arriving that makes the situation so difficult to handle."

    Mr Gabriel also called on European countries, Gulf states and the US to give billions of euros towards schools, accommodation and food in refugee camps in the Middle East.

    "It just can't be right that hundreds of billions can be mobilised in a few weeks to rescue banks, but the international community cannot even provide a fraction of that when it comes to human beings," he said.

    Migrants are escorted by Hungarian police officers as they wait to board a bus at a migrant collection point near the Serbian Hungarian border in Roszke, Hungary September 13,

    Hungary opposes European quotas on the amount of refugees it is to accept
    A steady stream of migrants is travelling from Greece, through Macedonia, Serbia and Hungary, to Austria and Germany.

    Hungary is aiming to complete a four-metre-high (13ft) fence along the border with Serbia by 15 September, when tougher measures, including arresting illegal immigrants, come into force.

    The European Commission announced plans last week for mandatory quotas to share out 120,000 additional asylum seekers among 25 member countries.
    Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Romania are opposed to this, with the Czech prime minister reiterating his country's position on Sunday.
    Last edited by tankie; 13 Sep 15,, 16:20.

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    • Originally posted by tankie View Post
      Last week, Mr Gabriel said Germany could take in 500,000 asylum seekers a year for several years.,,

      And thats just bit you on the arse
      500,000 per year are 10,000 per week - not 10,000 per day.

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      • When you were waiving Wilkommen you didn't know how many are coming?
        No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

        To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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        • Originally posted by kato View Post
          500,000 per year are 10,000 per week - not 10,000 per day.
          ??????????????????

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          • Oh, we knew. We're just not letting Hungary dump their problem on us.

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            • Originally posted by tankie View Post
              ??????????????????
              Back in mid-July we were at 8,000 per week for all of Germany, mid-August we were at 15,000. Since late August we've been getting 40,000 per week.

              What Gabriel said was that we could stem 40% less than expected at the time, not 40% more.

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              • Originally posted by kato View Post
                Oh, we knew. We're just not letting Hungary dump their problem on us.
                It's not their problem. These guys want to work for your pension, not Gustavs'.
                No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                • Bro,wanna make a bet?How long will it take for them to switch around 180?And how long until they start dumping their problem on us?

                  Btw,I'd take Christians and Yezidis.All of them.But muslims,thanks no thanks.
                  Those who know don't speak
                  He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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                  • It is unfair for the world to dump their migrant problems on EU. I do not see any other major non western power stepping up to the plate, including the gulf, China or even India.

                    White guilt can be exploited only so far
                    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                    • Originally posted by Mihais View Post
                      Bro,wanna make a bet?How long will it take for them to switch around 180?And how long until they start dumping their problem on us?

                      Btw,I'd take Christians and Yezidis.All of them.But muslims,thanks no thanks.
                      How you gonna differentiate? People can fake. Instead Europe should ask the rest of the world to do theire share
                      "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                      • Originally posted by antimony View Post
                        How you gonna differentiate? People can fake. Instead Europe should ask the rest of the world to do theire share
                        Let's say there are ways. The Jews were identified without problems some 70 years ago. What about the atheists?
                        No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                        To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                        • Ohhh,a proper security operation can check these fellows.As for the world and Europe,things are simple.We in the East caused nothing of the world problems.On the contrary,we've been receiving them.So regardless how stupid and pointless the idea of white guilt is in general,we have none.
                          And to put the blame where the truth is,the fault for this poor show lies mostly with current US administration and the Western Euro's.What ought to be done is a complete reversal of the policies in Syria on one hand,the invasion of North Africa and the protection of borders.Everything else is just politicians playing the emotions card,regardless on whose side they claim to be.
                          Last edited by Mihais; 14 Sep 15,, 13:40.
                          Those who know don't speak
                          He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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                          • Originally posted by antimony View Post
                            It is unfair for the world to dump their migrant problems on EU. I do not see any other major non western power stepping up to the plate, including the gulf, China or even India.

                            White guilt can be exploited only so far
                            AM do you think we should invite ourself to this mess that the USA and their allies and their enemies created in the ME ? Moreover when developed nations like Germany are having issues how do you think India would be able to support them ?? Also don't we already have a fair share of so called refugees from Bangladesh ??

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                            • You'd be stupid bothering with it.

                              What I can't help notice is that cracks are showing when so little is going on.When tens of millions will be on the move...
                              Those who know don't speak
                              He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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                              • Originally posted by Mihais View Post
                                You'd be stupid bothering with it.

                                What I can't help notice is that cracks are showing when so little is going on.When tens of millions will be on the move...
                                I guess Germany didn't realize what it was getting itself into now is realizing it and is having second thoughts. The issue is it is not just Syrians that came in but a whole bunch of other country men too masking themselves as Syrians.
                                Last edited by commander; 14 Sep 15,, 13:58.

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