Originally posted by surfgun
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At worst its less than a hundred young (mostly) men of Sudanese background who are committing crimes. Some robberies, some car thefts, some home invasions and some aggravated assaults. Its very unpleasant and occasionally unsafe for people in a couple of areas of Melbourne and it needs additional resources committed to dealing with it. However, there simply isn't a comparison to US problems. This isn't even 'sharks & Jets' stuff. They are not heavily armed, or mostly armed at all. They are not killing people. They aren't even especially well organized - certainly not the sort of 'gang' you are thinking about. They are not remotely the most dangerous groups in Australia, just the blackest. Thus your interest it appears.
We had a gangland war here a few years back that dropped about 3 dozen bodies. Worst we've ever had. Not a single African involved. I'm guessing you didn't notice that.
Here are some things that will tell you we have 'USA type issues':
*Murders per capita quadruple or quintuple;
*Firearms murders leap from about 30 to over 500;
*People start shooting up schools, workplaces & public gatherings on a regular basis;
*Other people respond to this by quibbling over whether or not the weapons was an 'assault weapon', 'military style' etc.;
*Our society becomes so dysfunctional that we start exporting our violent gang culture to third world nations;
*Whole swathes of our major cities become unsafe to live in (I live about 100 meters from the busiest drug corner in Melbourne. It is unpleasant, but not unsafe);
*We completely lose our collective fucking minds and institute gun laws remotely like the ones you have.
We have problems here, but they don't remotely compare to yours.
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