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  • A true hero, Basil Plumley, passes away

    First thing I saw. Go in peace...

    Basil Plumley, Army veteran of 3 wars, dies at 92 – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

  • #2
    God Bless Sir... NCO's like him won the wars for the USA in the past, not the officers.

    Salute! And a toast.

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    • #3
      A hero is no braver than an ordinary brave soldier, he is brave just five minutes longer. ;) RIP Sarn't Major

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      • #4
        Best line in the movie WWSOAY....

        CSM Plumley to LTC Moore..."Sir, Custer was a pussy!"

        Perfectly cast with Sam Elliot.

        I am sure CSM Plumley is buying the rounds at the Fiddler's Green as we speak of him.
        “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
        Mark Twain

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        • #5
          His Army awards included the Silver Star with one oak leaf cluster and the Bronze Star with one oak leaf cluster.
          I doff my beret and salute you Sir. May you rest in Blessed Peace.
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          • #6
            Present Arms. God Bless, CSM.

            Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
            I doff my beret and salute you Sir. May you rest in Blessed Peace.
            Captain, never call a NCM, Sir. You're using a title they reserve for Officers, often times spelling it c-u-r.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
              Captain, never call a NCM, Sir. You're using a title they reserve for Officers, often times spelling it c-u-r.
              In my world Colonel, he well earned the honorific...

              Combat Infantryman Badge (three awards)
              Master Combat Parachutist Badge with gold star (indicating 5 combat jumps)
              Vietnam Army Basic Parachutist Badge
              Silver Star with one Oak Leaf Cluster
              Legion of Merit
              Bronze Star with Oak Leaf Cluster and Valor Device
              Purple Heart with three Oak Leaf Clusters
              Air Medal with one silver and three bronze Oak Leaf Clusters
              Army Commendation Medal
              Army Presidential Unit Citation with two Oak Leaf Clusters
              Army Good Conduct Medal (6 or 11 awards)
              American Defense Service Medal
              American Campaign Medal
              European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with Arrowhead device and 1 silver and 3 bronze campaign stars (to signify 8 campaigns and 4 combat jumps)
              World War II Victory Medal
              Army of Occupation Medal
              National Defense Service Medal with oak leaf cluster
              Korean Service Medal with Arrowhead device and three campaign stars
              Vietnam Service Medal with one silver and three bronze campaign stars
              Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
              French Croix de Guerre (for World War II service) (attachments unknown, but at least 1 bronze star)
              Belgian Croix de Guerre (for World War II service) (attachments unknown, but at least 1 bronze lion)
              Vietnam Cross of Gallantry with Bronze Star
              Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation
              Vietnam Gallantry Cross Unit Citation with Palm
              United Nations Service Medal for Korea
              Vietnam Campaign Medal
              Republic of Korea War Service Medal
              Order of Saint Maurice Primicerius and Doughboy Award
              10 Service Stripes, indicating 30–32 years of service
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              • #8
                Officers, step away from the Captain. I do believe the CSM is about to unleash a shit storm of lightning bolts.

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                • #9
                  No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                  To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                  • #10
                    Rest in peace
                    Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

                    Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Doktor View Post
                      The CSM would regard being called sir (implying he was an officer) as a demotion. RIP, and ignore the captain, being an officer she knoweth not what she does.
                      In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                      Leibniz

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                      • #12
                        Pari,

                        Over here, as much as I know (being a civie), the address goes with Sir/Madam for those with higher rank then you, by rank only or by Sir/madam followed with the rank, so it was confusing.

                        Thanks for explanation.
                        No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                        To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Doktor View Post
                          Pari,

                          Over here, as much as I know (being a civie), the address goes with Sir/Madam for those with higher rank then you, by rank only or by Sir/madam followed with the rank, so it was confusing.

                          Thanks for explanation.
                          It's a practice unique to the Americans. Commonwealth armies will have subordinates addressing Sgts-Majs or above as "Sir." But Officers should never address NCMs as Sir.

                          Having read about CSM Plumley, he spells sir as C-U-R and no one will ever call him a cur ... not if he doesn't want to see his own lungs.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                            It's a practice unique to the Americans. Commonwealth armies will have subordinates addressing Sgts-Majs or above as "Sir." But Officers should never address NCMs as Sir.

                            Having read about CSM Plumley, he spells sir as C-U-R and no one will ever call him a cur ... not if he doesn't want to see his own lungs.
                            Colonel, he may have made an exception for Hal Moore...but few others.

                            Captain, what our mentor from the Great White North is trying to say the custom in our Army is to never call a noncommissioned officer sir... We call them sergeant, staff sergeant, platoon sergeant/gunnery sergeant, first sergeant/master sergeant, or sergeant major.

                            It is their due as the backbone of our Army and Marines...to call him Sir would imply he was a lowly commissioned officer...no greater insult to an NCO!

                            We know you meant no disrespect...and CSM Plumley would have recognized that.


                            And it doesn't matter male or female....those NCOs worked damned hard to get those stripes and rockers!
                            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                            Mark Twain

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
                              Colonel, he may have made an exception for Hal Moore...but few others.

                              Captain, what our mentor from the Great White North is trying to say the custom in our Army is to never call a noncommissioned officer sir... We call them sergeant, staff sergeant, platoon sergeant/gunnery sergeant, first sergeant/master sergeant, or sergeant major.


                              The reason why British forces address Warrant Officers 'Sir' stems from the days of Charles the first, when there used to be a rank called Sargent Major General, which was of General officer status and whose duties were similar to the modern day RSM.

                              In addition, Warrant Officers are "Warranted" by the Monarch and receive a a 'Royal Warrant'.

                              Furthermore, in everyday langauge, for centuries, it was polite to address others as 'Sir', even if they were your inferiors. Again Monarchs would do the same.

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