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Originally posted by ajaybhutanii was under an impression that russians are planning to give plasma stealth feature to mig29K to be procured by India. and even for upgrades.??Though i dont remember where i read it.
I think it is being procured for the Navy for its aircraft carriers. But India doesn't have any Aircraft Carriers at the moment. I think these are a part of the Gorshkov(spelling?) deal.Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
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"I think it is being procured for the Navy for its aircraft carriers. But India doesn't have any Aircraft Carriers at the moment. I think these are a part of the Gorshkov(spelling?) deal."
I'm probably wrong, because it's been months since i read anything about that carrier deal(and because i read far more than i can possibly retain), but weren't they Mig-29Ks?
EDIT TO ADD: Yep, google says they're K models.
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Originally posted by ajaybhutaniyes i m talking about the mig29K the naval variant for gorshkovSelf-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
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Originally posted by ajaybhutaniwell primary reason is " we didnt have many options We had to buy russian fighter Aircraft for gorshkov( as otherwise we wont get gorshkov) and su33 dsnt fit on it Though the package shall contain the su30 MKI type avionics and TVC,.Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
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"can you quote any reason why only India seemed to have accepted MIG-29K."
Not very many nations buying Russian carriers...To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway
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Originally posted by M21Sniper'Wrong, I have an arms catalog regarding Rosoboronexport sales. The MiG-29SMT, which is equipped with the latest Russian Generation of Plasma stealth, will not be fielded outside the Russia airforce.'
Well your arms catalog is wrong cuz.
The Mig-29SMT has been offered to numerous countries.
Apparently, no one wants them...
-SK
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Originally posted by SwingKidThis may be nitpicking but... wouldn't that make the arms catalog technically correct?
-SK
Not so much into research as much in nitpicking as you call it, huh?Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
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Originally posted by MaximusNo its not technically correct. The manual implies that Russia wont be offering the aircraft to any other country.
Whiere is it fielded outside of Russia Maximus? Which country?
Huh? Huh?
Not so much into research as much in nitpicking as you call it, huh?
-SK
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"No it doesn't. It says the aircraft won't be fielded outside Russia. In order for that to be incorrect, the aircraft would have to be fielded outside of Russia. Whiere is it fielded outside of Russia Maximus? Which country?"
It seems it could be going to Yemen and Algeria. Two nations which have no other option for modern planes.
But the guy that orginally posted that whole crap about the Russians not wanting to export it is an idiot trying to make it sound special.To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway
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Originally posted by troungIt seems it could be going to Yemen and Algeria. Two nations which have no other option for modern planes.
-SK
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"Interest in "MiG-29SMT" for its ground attack capabilites, maybe."
Well at the very least it would be better then a MiG-29A/S/UB thats for sure...
"But "plasma stealth?" I think you have to be a little smarter than that to get into a hardware-buying position of authority in those countries."
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The whole point is the maybe "plasma stealth" is an under funded pipe dream that is talked about to hype up the systems. Or of course the fact "plasma stealth" is really going no where. So I doubt they looked online and said "hey it has "plasma stealth"!!! lets buy it!!!".
But of course being smart and being in a hardware buying position don't really mesh or go hand in hand either, so... ;)To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway
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