'Stop Iran or I will' - Netanyahu

[KRON1]

Yes, of course, Israel is a sovereign nation, and they have a right to their nuclear weapons, and they have every right to defend themselves against an attack, with overwhelming force should they so decide.

When the adversary has proclaimed your nation's doom at the highest levels of government, it would be foolhardy to sit by and let them carry out what they preach.

[Officer of Engineers]

Nope. That is utterly meaningless, and only worthy of riducule and contempt.

How? Is the NPT a legitimate treaty or not?

The only legitimate rôle for anyone involved in such "international agreements" is that of reactive targets.

They can withdraw just like North Korea.

[GraniteForge]

When the adversary has proclaimed your nation's doom at the highest levels of government, it would be foolhardy to sit by and let them carry out what they preach.

Boasts of attack are pretty common, but the law does not generally allow the target to respond physically until they are actually attacked.

[Officer of Engineers]

Boasts of attack are pretty common, but the law does not generally allow the target to respond physically until they are actually attacked.

Kofi Anan crossed that line a long time ago.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...rra/000725.htm

[GraniteForge]

How? Is the NPT a legitimate treaty or not?

I wouldn't want to wipe my ass with something as illegitimate as the NPT.

They can withdraw just like North Korea.

Formally withdrawing just gives credence to the pretense that it has substance. It is beneath contempt, and Iran would be correct to ignore it.

[Mercenary]

When the adversary has proclaimed your nation's doom at the highest levels of government, it would be foolhardy to sit by and let them carry out what they preach.

Rhetoric..!!...Israel needs to wake up to reality...striking Iran would be stirring up an hornet's nest..besides they didn't strike Pak reactors when they had a chance to stop them...stopping Iranians from getting nukes indefinitely is simply not possible..maybe they should spend their efforts on perfecting an Anti-BM shield

[Officer of Engineers]

I wouldn't want to wipe my ass with something as illegitimate as the NPT.

The NSG trade deals specifically with NPT members.

Formally withdrawing just gives credence to the pretense that it has substance. It is beneath contempt, and Iran would be correct to ignore it.

And therefore by straight violation, gives the US the legal right for war.

[KRON1]

Boasts of attack are pretty common, but the law does not generally allow the target to respond physically until they are actually attacked.

What law is that?

[GraniteForge]

The NSG trade deals specifically with NPT members.

And therefore by straight violation, gives the US the legal right for war.

The US will, and does, go to war whenever it wants, other factors notwithstanding.

[Mercenary]

And therefore by straight violation, gives the US the legal right for war.

US isn't a country that cares two pennies about the "legal right" for going to war..we already saw that in Iraq... If it feels like its time to strike Iran..it will!..Iran knows that and is just trying to make the equation too complex for a political decision in the whitehouse

[KRON1]

Rhetoric..!!...Israel needs to wake up to reality...striking Iran would be stirring up an hornet's nest..besides they didn't strike Pak reactors when they had a chance to stop them...stopping Iranians from getting nukes indefinitely is simply not possible..maybe they should spend their efforts on perfecting an Anti-BM shield

What reality do they need to wake up to? Pakistan was no threat to Israel. The soul purpose of their program was against India. The prolifieration of nuclear technologies was their sin. Stopping Iran from achieving a nuclear device can be stalled with a strike now that will hamper the program for years. The damage would be in the billions of lost effort making continuation of the program a difficult situation.

[Officer of Engineers]

The US will, and does, go to war whenever it wants, other factors notwithstanding.

I don't recall any illegal combat operations initiated by the US.

US isn't a country that cares two pennies about the "legal right" for going to war..we already saw that in Iraq...

On the contrary, the US jumped through hoops to lay the legal foundation for that war, upto and including denying the French, the Russian, and the Chinese UNSC veto on their actions.

If it feels like its time to strike Iran..it will!..Iran knows that and is just trying to make the equation too complex for a political decision in the whitehouse

Except the NPT has also been used as the Cause of War by the Soviets. Until China signed the NPT, they maintained that they had the right to attack the Chinese nuclear arsenal.

They used the same threat against Israel.

[Mercenary]

What reality do they need to wake up to? Pakistan was no threat to Israel. The soul purpose of their program was against India. The prolifieration of nuclear technologies was their sin. Stopping Iran from achieving a nuclear device can be stalled with a strike now that will hamper the program for years. The damage would be in the billions of lost effort making continuation of the program a difficult situation.

Where do you think Iranians got their nuke program inputs from? - AQ khan nexus... Pak is as hostile towards israel as Iran..PAF pilots flew sorties and shot down Israeli fighters in Egyptian fighter jets during the 1967 arab israeli war

Israelis knew that Pak with nukes means proliferation to other countries in the middle-east...it did nothing then...

[KRON1]

I wouldn't want to wipe my ass with something as illegitimate as the NPT.

Then what is worthy of 'wiping your ass?'

Formally withdrawing just gives credence to the pretense that it has substance. It is beneath contempt, and Iran would be correct to ignore it.

Iran is free to withdraw from it. Since Israel has not signed it, the US is in no position to come to their aid. But then, they don't need nuclear assistance from us in the first place.

[KRON1]

Where do you think Iranians got their nuke program inputs from? - AQ khan nexus... Pak is as hostile towards israel as Iran..PAF pilots flew sorties and shot down Israeli fighters in Egyptian fighter jets during the 1967 arab israeli war

I know they got it from Khan's design... it doesn't have anything to do with the intent of General Musharaf at the time. When the US told Pakistan to get him out of management of the program with the NK debacle, they moved him. When he was charged with assisting Iran, he was alleged to have recieved personal bribes that had no connection with the Pakistani state. They also cracked down on KLA officials. He was a corrupt scientist... little more.

Israelis knew that Pak with nukes means proliferation to other countries in the middle-east...it did nothing then...

Was Israel in a position to do anything about it? I think not...