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Israel's New Racism: The Persecution of African Migrants in the Holy Land
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As a more even-handed backdrop, Israel (with US assistance) airlifted tens of thousands of African Jews (Beta Israel) from persecution in Ethiopia between 1979 and 1990. Today there are ~120,000 ethnic Ethiopian Israelis.
The people above are illegal immigrants who were initially welcomed but have become a burgeoning problem, especially in South Tel Aviv and Eilat. Israelis are simply fed up with their criminal behaviors and want them removed.sigpic
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Originally posted by Minskaya View PostAs a more even-handed backdrop, Israel (with US assistance) airlifted tens of thousands of African Jews (Beta Israel) from persecution in Ethiopia between 1979 and 1990. Today there are ~120,000 ethnic Ethiopian Israelis.
The people above are illegal immigrants who were initially welcomed but have become a burgeoning problem, especially in South Tel Aviv and Eilat. Israelis are simply fed up with their criminal behaviors and want them removed.
Its interesting you mention the criminal behaviour of 'illegal immigrants' when there are over 500,000 illegal Israeli immigrants in the occupied territories. I wonder, if Israelis are so fed up of illegal immigrants from Africa and want them removed, do they also feel the same about illegal Israelis living in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and support the removal of these aliens too?
I hope you dont have double standards when it comes to illegals in your country, and illegals from your country living in somebody else's land.
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Originally posted by 1980s View PostWhat is the condition of Ethiopian Israelis? There's reports every so often about their general exclusion and large scale poverty.
Its interesting you mention the criminal behaviour of 'illegal immigrants' when there are over 500,000 illegal Israeli immigrants in the occupied territories. I wonder, if Israelis are so fed up of illegal immigrants from Africa and want them removed, do they also feel the same about illegal Israelis living in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and support the removal of these aliens too?
I hope you dont have double standards when it comes to illegals in your country, and illegals from your country living in somebody else's land.
It's shameful that repression and expulsion is so frequently justified, so easily rationalized, in the grand game of increasing Israeli security. Unbelievable duplicity in policy from the Jordan to the sea is one of the unfortunate results.Last edited by Goatboy; 19 Oct 13,, 22:44.
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Originally posted by 1980s View PostWhat is the condition of Ethiopian Israelis? There's reports every so often about their general exclusion and large scale poverty.
Originally posted by 1980s View PostIts interesting you mention the criminal behaviour of 'illegal immigrants' when there are over 500,000 illegal Israeli immigrants in the occupied territories.
Originally posted by 1980s View PostI hope you dont have double standards when it comes to illegals in your country, and illegals from your country living in somebody else's land.
Israel isn't alone with such problems. Your fellow Brit tankie calls your capital Londonstan. The Spanish fence to keep illegal Africans out. The Paris slum riots. Muslims in Milan. Turks in Germany. Drownings in SE Asia. The troubles on the US/Mexico border. Just this past week there was a riot in Moscow to boot out North Caucus immigrants.sigpic
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Originally posted by Goatboy View PostIt's shameful that repression and expulsion is so frequently justified, so easily rationalized, in the grand game of increasing Israeli security. Unbelievable duplicity in policy from the Jordan to the sea is one of the unfortunate results.Those who know don't speak
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
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Originally posted by Minskaya View PostAccording to Israeli media, the illegal African immigrants have become a definite criminal problem. The Sinai border fence is now complete which will curtail illegals simply walking across an open border.
Im sure you can see the irony of the marches and disgusting attitudes of the right-wing Israelis in the video.
Israel isn't alone with such problems. Your fellow Brit tankie calls your capital Londonstan. The Spanish fence to keep illegal Africans out. The Paris slum riots. Muslims in Milan. Turks in Germany. Drownings in SE Asia. The troubles on the US/Mexico border. Just this past week there was a riot in Moscow to boot out North Caucus immigrants.
I am not attacking you personally, but Israel hardly can evoke much sympathy over this issue, unlike Greece or Italy for example.
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Originally posted by Mihais View PostIt's always shameful,from afar.It gets very righteous once you're on the receiving end,the kinetic sort, of cultural enrichment.
I'm still waiting for a more comprehensive story on the Israeli government's use of the birth control drug "Depo-Provera" on Ethiopian Jews, ostensibly to "control" their birth rate. Many/most were unwitting recipients, but an alarming number claim they were coerced into taking it, by the threat of denial of entry. There's plenty of "unspoken" and "ex-official" governmental policies in Israel related to maintaining ethnic purity, or at least "Jewishness". I fear this was one of them.Last edited by Goatboy; 21 Oct 13,, 01:55.
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Originally posted by Minskaya View PostTurks in Germany.
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Originally posted by Minskaya View PostAs with most immigrants, it was rough at first. It is better now and ~35% are Israeli born. I would guess that at least one fifth of the IDF is Ethiopian and so is the current Miss Israel. Poverty is poverty, and it exists in all demographic sectors. Without doubt there are far more Russian Israelis in poverty than Ethiopian Israelis in poverty.
As I've said before, I don't agree with the West Bank settlements.
Israel isn't alone with such problems. Your fellow Brit tankie calls your capital Londonstan. The Spanish fence to keep illegal Africans out. The Paris slum riots. Muslims in Milan. Turks in Germany. Drownings in SE Asia. The troubles on the US/Mexico border. Just this past week there was a riot in Moscow to boot out North Caucus immigrants.sigpic
Win nervously lose tragically - Reds C C
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Originally posted by Bigfella View PostDoesn't that make you a 'self-hating jew' or somesuch?
As for the rest, I haven't lived full-time in Israel for a number of years so the best I can offer about the illegal immigrant problem are impressions from afar. Israel is a very complex society.sigpic
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Originally posted by Minskaya View PostI don't think so. Most members of this board (with some legendary exceptions) offer criticisms of their governments and policies. To pretend any government is benign and squeaky-clean is both disingenuous and dishonest.
As for the rest, I haven't lived full-time in Israel for a number of years so the best I can offer about the illegal immigrant problem are impressions from afar. Israel is a very complex society.sigpic
Win nervously lose tragically - Reds C C
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