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  • Originally posted by JAD_333 View Post
    Yes, yes, of course. But he did show promise at least once, didn't he?
    So did Burnside & JEB Magruder!
    “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
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    • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
      So did Burnside & JEB Magruder!
      I can't figure Burnside. Even he didn't want full command. I don't think the little Napoleon would have thrown wave after wave of troops across the river at Fredricksburg...even you wouldn't have. :) Magruder, I don't know, but he never rose to the level of the other two.
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      • Burnside did beat Longstreet though!

        And his plan was actually pretty good, and he did fool Lee...but someone forgot to bring the bridges. And for some reason they decided to move them to F'burg overland rather than by river. Took them 15 days. In that amount of time Lee flexed and dug in on the Heights.

        Magruder's best work was as an actor (see Yorktown). At all others he as inept to inadequate....but he did have Galveston!
        “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
        Mark Twain

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        • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
          Burnside did beat Longstreet though!

          And his plan was actually pretty good, and he did fool Lee...but someone forgot to bring the bridges. And for some reason they decided to move them to F'burg overland rather than by river. Took them 15 days. In that amount of time Lee flexed and dug in on the Heights.
          You're quite right. I had forgotten about that. Perhaps the distinction between planning and executing should come into play in your assessment. BTW, I thought the bridges finally arrived and were being laid south of the city under steady rebel sniper fire. I agree the delay was critical.

          Magruder's best work was as an actor (see Yorktown). At all others he as inept to inadequate....but he did have Galveston!
          lol...a sop to a washed up general.
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          • 1860 Abraham Lincoln elected 16th President of the United States with 39.7% of the vote or 180 electoral votes. His opponents combined garnered only 123 electoral votes.

            1862 Jefferson Davis is elected President and Alexander Stephens is elected Vice President of the Confederate States of America.

            Thomas Jackson is promoted to lieutenant general, CSA.

            1863 The Battle of Droop Mountain, West (BY GOD!!!!) Virginia The Union victory detroyed Confederate resistance in the state for the remainder of the war.
            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
            Mark Twain

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            • 1861 Engagement at Belmont, Missouri; Sam Grant learns the other guy can be just as scared as you are.

              Battle of Port Royal, SC Battle of Port Royal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              1863 Battle of Rappahannock Station, Virginia The VI Corps AOP succesfully assaults and takes a Confederate position with disasterous results for the ANV. It effectively closed the Bristoe Campaign and launched the Mine Run Campaign. Oh what Meade could have done with better corps commanders! Second Battle of Rappahannock Station - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
              “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
              Mark Twain

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              • 1861 Confederate emissary to England removed from British vessel by the commander of the USS San Jacinto, initiating Trent Affair. Lincoln later releases James Mason & John Slidell to silence war drums from England. He would say to his cabinet for his reason; "One war at a time."

                The Battle of Ivy Mountain Big Sandy Expedition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


                1864 Abraham Lincoln is re-elected President of the United States, defeating the Democratic Party candidate George McClellan. Lincoln would win by 400,000 votes, largely bouyed by the soldier vote....the men who had fought and bled wanted to finish the job.
                “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
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                • 1860. South Carolina lawmakers call for Secession Convention in the wake of Lincoln's election.

                  1861. Henry Halleck is placed in command of all states between the Appalachians and the Mississippi.

                  1865. North Carolina nullifies it Ordinance of Secession.
                  “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
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                  • 1831 Nat Turner is hung for leading a slave revolt.

                    1863 Benjamin Butler is returned to active service and placed in command of Department of Virginia and North Carolina.

                    1864 The Battle of Bulls Gap, TN Battle of Bull's Gap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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                    • 1860 In Preston County, Western Virginia holds its first organizational meeting, expressing a desire to "adhere to the Union".

                      1861 Blockade Runner Fingal, bought by Confederates in England, arrives in Savannah.

                      1864 General Sherman in Cartersville sends his last message to General Thomas in Nashville, Tennessee. He will be out of communication with the North until December 13.
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                      • A lot of major reorganization going on this date


                        1862 Ambrose Burnside reorganises the Army of the Potomac command structure into three Grand Divisions with the Right Grand Division under Major Edwin Vose Sumner, Central Grand Division under Joe Hooker and the Left Grand Division under William B. Franklin.

                        1864 Sherman enters Atlanta and divides his 60,000 men into a Left Wing and Right Wing. In doing so he creates a rarity....a Union Army not named for a body of water. The Union Army of Georgia is formed by combining the XXth Corps (there are those Germans!) with the remaining the XIVth Corps, Army of the Cumberland. Henry Slocum (he of the XIIth Corps at Gettysburg) is appointed its commander.
                        “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
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                        • A busy date for old Cump!

                          1861 William Tecumseh Sherman is replaced by Don Carlos Buell at the head of the reorganized Department of Ohio. Sherman had assumed command as senior officer when Anderson was relieved of duty.

                          Second pro-Union rebellion in East Tennessee, centered in the Chattanooga area.

                          1862 Confederate Secretary of War George Randolph resigns over President Jefferson Davis's control of the War Department.

                          1863 Moving east from the Mississippi, General William Tecumseh Sherman arrives in Stevenson, Alabama with four divisions. Sherman then confers with Grant in Chattanooga.

                          1864 William T. Sherman departs Atlanta on the March to the Sea, leaving Atlanta in ruins.
                          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
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                          • AR,

                            that date in 1863 is particularly interesting to me. amazing how much the confederacy collapsed within a period of six months. i think the confederacy had a shot, albeit a poor shot, at turning things around in may 1863; by november 1863 the writing was on the wall.
                            There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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                            • Originally posted by astralis View Post
                              AR,

                              that date in 1863 is particularly interesting to me. amazing how much the confederacy collapsed within a period of six months. i think the confederacy had a shot, albeit a poor shot, at turning things around in may 1863; by november 1863 the writing was on the wall.
                              Absolutely.

                              Bloodlettings in the East coupled with victorious turns in the West and Trans-Mississippi ensured the war could not be won by the Confederacy on the battlefield by November of 1863. The seemingly high points for the Confederates at Chickamauga were dashed within weeks. And Lee continued to underestimate Meade an would suffer for it with reverses at Bristoe & Rappahannock Stations. Even Mine Run was not a great outcome for the Confederacy.
                              “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                              Mark Twain

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                              • 1861 Skidell & Mason are delivered to Federal authorities in Boston from the USS San Jacinto.

                                1863 The Battle of Campbell's Station Battle of Campbell's Station - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 1863 was such a strange year for the Lee's Old Warhorse. Near great success at Gettysburg and a glorious success at Chickamauga are bookended by the ignominious defeats at Suffolk and Knoxville.

                                1864 Sherman's March consumes much of Marietta, Rome & Cartersville, GA.
                                “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
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