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    [QUOTE=JCT;1039797USMC is constantly trying to tinker with the size of the squad and I think they are leaning on technology in an effort to reduce the size (to keep budgets down, a significant portion of USMC budget goes to personnel paychecks.)[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    Manpower is always the most expensive part of any DOD budget. Keep in mind what you are mostly paying for when you buy something....whether a Skillcraft pen (happy 50th Birthday!), M1A2, F-35C or USS Gerald Ford (less nukes), the largest single cost is always labor.
    Yes, and the cheap part of a system's life cycle is procurement. Sustainment is the expensive part. Lots of labor dollars involved their too!

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    This has been enlightening. Whatever else, the proposed Marine squad sure is different. Just a few years ago a lot of folks thought the Russian infantry squad with assault rifles, UGLs, a DMR, a SAW and a PKM was the hottest stuff out there. Now the Marines are floating squads that are on a single caliber... interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCT View Post
    Yes, and the cheap part of a system's life cycle is procurement. Sustainment is the expensive part. Lots of labor dollars involved their too!
    Gee, you sound like you know what DAU is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    Gee, you sound like you know what DAU is!
    DAWAI SPRDE Lvl 2 qualified. Have to do the 80 hours of training every 2 years, which is a PITA! I'm very familiar with the insides of the local DAU facilities and their horrible horrible website.

    This has been enlightening. Whatever else, the proposed Marine squad sure is different. Just a few years ago a lot of folks thought the Russian infantry squad with assault rifles, UGLs, a DMR, a SAW and a PKM was the hottest stuff out there. Now the Marines are floating squads that are on a single caliber... interesting.
    The entire rifle platoon has been on a single caliber since forever (I don't want to throw out a date or say fielding of the M16 as someone will point out that I'm wrong! Forever being defined as when I joined up.) The platoon Cdr even has a rifle. The rifle companies have 7.62mm, and if you want to get technical, they used to have .50cal spotting rounds for the SMAWs. Not sure if they still use these or have gone to something else.

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    Yeah, but for a while some of the DMR were 7.62mm--the USMC must be really confident with the new 5.56mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCT View Post
    DAWAI SPRDE Lvl 2 qualified. Have to do the 80 hours of training every 2 years, which is a PITA! I'm very familiar with the insides of the local DAU facilities and their horrible horrible website.
    DAWAI ACQLOG Level 3 qualified here!
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