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so today Trump attacked his own FBI, DOJ, and intel agencies, all in front of the man responsible for the entire mess.
watching the conference made me sick to my stomach. i literally ran to the office restroom and retched a bit.There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
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Originally posted by astralis View Postso today Trump attacked his own FBI, DOJ, and intel agencies, all in front of the man responsible for the entire mess.
watching the conference made me sick to my stomach. i literally ran to the office restroom and retched a bit.
Apparently supporting a hostile foreign dictator who just interfered in a US election against the intelligence services tasked with defending America is now 'patriotism'. What a shameful day for America.sigpic
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it was so bad that even the usual Trump-friendly media suspects couldn't bring themselves to praise it.There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
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So what exactly constitutes treason as in aid and comfort. Is this not comfort in regards to Russia?
SECTION 3. Clause 1. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court.
Looking around I find this as to what aid and comfort might mean:
To render assistance or counsel. Any act that deliberately strengthens or tends to strengthen enemies of the United States, or that weakens or tends to weaken the power of the United States to resist and attack such enemies is characterized as aid and comfort.Last edited by tbm3fan; 17 Jul 18,, 02:38.
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Originally posted by astralis View Postit was so bad that even the usual Trump-friendly media suspects couldn't bring themselves to praise it.
What makes all this even worse is that it comes at the end of an 'insult an ally' tour of Europe. Putin may actually die of laughter. Having the 'leader of the free world' practically lick his boots in public is so much more than he could have hoped for.
A few of the Aussies here might remember back in 1987 when media mogul Kerry Packer sold his beloved TV network to Alan Bond for the wildly inflated price of $1 billion. Predictably Bond went broke and packer bought back the network for a fraction of that. Packer famously said 'you only get one Alan Bond in your lifetime'. Putin must think that about Trump every day. No Russian leader's wildest dreams would run to a US President publicly siding with them against their own intelligence community.sigpic
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So what exactly is Putin's 'hold' on Trump that caused the POTUS' seeming subordination to Vladimir at Helsinki ?
(Does he really have bondage pics of the Donald getting...err...ummm..."rear ended"?) lol
Seriously, I'm wondering why ? Exactly what caused Trump to backtrack within one week on his disappointment with Russia's supposed interference in 2016.
Did Vladimir show Donald the dossier he would hand over to chief investigator Mueller ?
What are are your thoughts ?Last edited by PeeCoffee; 17 Jul 18,, 10:33.Real eyes realize real lies.
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Originally posted by PeeCoffee View PostSo what exactly is Putin's 'hold' on Trump that caused the POTUS' seeming subordination to Vladimir at Helsinki ?
(Does he really have bondage pics of the Donald getting...err...ummm..."rear ended"?) lol
Seriously, I'm wondering why ? Exactly what caused Trump to backtrack within one week on his disappointment with Russia's supposed interference in 2016.
Did Vladimir show Donald the dossier he would hand over to chief investigator Mueller ?
What are are your thoughts ?
Trump is an immensely vain man obsessed with notions of 'strength', 'forcefulness', 'power' etc. Putin is just stroking his ego & telling him what he wants to hear. It really is that easy.
American Conservatism has essentially devolved into a giant troll factory. They hate 'liberals' more than hostile foreign dictators. They see a 'muslim invasion' in every mosque. They see their own societies as 'weak' and 'feminized'. They not so secretly admire Putin's authoritarian anti-liberal nationalism. He hates the same people they do & does the things they fantasise about doing. Trump is surfing that wave like Kelly Slater.
Trump sees Putin as a kindred soul. Putin sees Trump as an easy mark.sigpic
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Originally posted by PeeCoffee View PostSo what exactly is Putin's 'hold' on Trump that caused the POTUS' seeming subordination to Vladimir at Helsinki ?
(Does he really have bondage pics of the Donald getting...err...ummm..."rear ended"?) lol
Seriously, I'm wondering why ? Exactly what caused Trump to backtrack within one week on his disappointment with Russia's supposed interference in 2016.
Did Vladimir show Donald the dossier he would hand over to chief investigator Mueller ?
What are are your thoughts ?
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So here is the delighful Muscovite 'illegal' (the latest arrested) in the Oval Office with Lavrov and Trumpkin. It is said by some that she (and her senior) were responsible for blocking Mitt Romney as Secretary of State. She is the redhead in the door.
John O. Brennan
Verified account @JohnBrennan
Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???
How can people still believe that Trumpkin is not deeply compromised?
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Originally posted by Bigfella View PostThat should send up a flare to even the most committed trump apologist.
Originally posted by Bigfella View PostPutin must think that about Trump every day. No Russian leader's wildest dreams would run to a US President publicly siding with them against their own intelligence community.“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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I reach 20 years of Federal Service in August and am eligible for retirement.
I am seriously wondering if I can still continue to serve in this government...I am as a Civilian Employee of the Department of the army I am a member of the administration.
I do not know if I can continue to serve.
I will at least hold on until I'm 60 in November. I will have the election outcome to help me in my decision.“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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