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Navy to dismantle the ex-USS Kitty Hawk
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Originally posted by thebard View PostI'm not too sure it's as simple as that. The Navy rightly takes the threat of a saturation attack by ABMs very seriously. These attacks can be mounted from a variety of platforms and could prove to be very deadly. A single success could take one of our supercarriers out of service for months or years. The Navy has even been considering larger numbers of smaller (less capable) carriers to mitigate the threat. Kind of like the 'Jeep' carriers employed in WWII.Chimo
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostNo one in the USN believes that China has capable ASBMs. However, that threat is already neutralized. You don't ship 500+ Cruise Missiles to Deigo Garcia for nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-s...listic_missile
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Originally posted by thebard View Post
The Chinese even had a dead freighter all lined up for the test. Never happened.
There's only two conclusions. They're unwilling to do the test. They're unable to do the test.
Either way, confidence ain't high it's capable.Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 09 Nov 17,, 22:17.Chimo
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Originally posted by Burnet View PostFrom a museum ship perspective, the problem with Kitty Hawk, or any large ship, is that costs increase with size, but entry fees generally don't. Visitors will only pay so much and they get fatigued after so many grey steel rooms.
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Originally posted by SlaterDoc View PostOh, I just have to "chime" in here!
bbvet:
I have to agree with you in a number of areas! However, are you sure about the origin of the moniker??
During my short exposure to the "sh.ty kitty" in the early 70's I was told it came from her lousy shape and lack of maintenance! She spent more time in Subic for repairs than at Yankee station! She is not a good candidate for anything except scrap! I don't know of a single former member of her crew that holds any affection for the tub! Especially with the other chapters in her history, like the riots in 72!
tbm:
I know that you guys have suffered the consequences of a greedy staff and completely understand! There are a number of others that had the same problem. Just check out what really happened with Olympia as a result of greed and corruption! Yet there are many like Iowa where the dedication and commitment are the driving force behind the successes. I would rave on about USS Slater. But then, we are even more unique in a number of ways. No! In this case, size does not matter!
Now, it would make more sense to consider JFK as more suitable for re-activation anyway! She is newer, in much better condition and more "worthy". However, since she is so close to becoming the "Midway of the East", her status was/is to be (from what I heard) Inactive Ready Reserve. JFK (like Midway and Mo) would also be at or next to a major Naval installation. Plus, with Newport being the major training command it is, she would be an ideal platform for access by the many school commands here (one of the many planned uses). There is also another use that is "Top Secret" and I'm not suppose to know. So, I don't! Plus, CV79 is already almost 50% complete! You know how today's hierarchy handles dilemmas! "what do you do now with two JFK's":confu:
There are many sad stories of ships that should have been and could have been saved and served as members of the historical fleet. But, because of the lack of interest, involvment and $$$$ their fates were not pretty! As a couple of examples are the stories of USS Cabot and USS Zuni/USCGC Tamaroa.
Those that thrive or even just survive are not just memorials and reminders. They are necessary and needed for the education of all the newer generations that are having their minds polluted or washed in today's re-writing or just plain ignoring history! Those that thrive do so because their custodians and crews use common sense and ingenuity in creating and finding additional and creative purposes!
RIP Rusty, we're still thinking about you!
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On the Hornet we are not sure about going to the Kitty Hawk to look for parts. It seems that they want those interested to actually list the specific part you are looking for. Not like the last time when groups showed up at the Ranger to look for what they needed and then found other parts. For example us finding a correct ice cream machine. Haven't heard if they want us to list the actual part number but they do want a complete description of what you want. Whether it is there or not is another matter what with the Navy removing equipment.
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