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Originally posted by zara View PostReally??
Just saying that tomorrows voters are pro-EU.
It's become apparent over many decades how manipulated our education has become. I was at high/comprehensive school from 80-85. We were brought up on a diet of being British, for all its faults, we knew who we were!
Then at some point EU legislation has been implemented and we've had a sea change in direction. Most parents won't realise that their children have undergone a brainwashing process, but never the less that IS what has happened. THus we now have a generation of children that no nothing, other than that the EU is wonderful....they've had no experience of anything else and this has happened under the blind gaze of their parents. Quite sinister!!!!
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So upto press Spain are going to insist we give Gibraltar back, Our base at Akrotiri will be confiscated and no trade talks until we accept our spending commitments of £50 billion (plucked out of air figure). So yeh no threatening tone there then. All nice and friendly!!!!
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Originally posted by Toby View PostSo yeh no threatening tone there then. All nice and friendly!!!!
It's kinda funny how the yellow press on the island starts with "shock demands" and such right now. Did anyone realistically not expect that Gibraltar would be a centerpiece to EU strategy? Along with another piece of real estate of course. The draft insists on the full application of the Good Friday Agreement. If you want a shock demand, the Good Friday Agreement states that if a majority of Northern Ireland votes thusly the UK is bound to transfer the territory to Ireland; not quite the Scottish situation in that regard. Let's see... 55.8% on June 24th... you know what i mean.Last edited by kato; 01 Apr 17,, 14:44.
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Originally posted by kato View PostDid you really expect a non-threatening tone from the EU? I mean, we're rolling up 40 years of history. And given how for 35 years of that the UK has been oppressing and demeaning us there's a lot built up.
It's kinda funny how the yellow press on the island starts with "shock demands" and such right now. Did anyone realistically not expect that Gibraltar would be a centerpiece to EU strategy? Along with another piece of real estate of course. The draft insists on the full application of the Good Friday Agreement. If you want a shock demand, the Good Friday Agreement states that if a majority of Northern Ireland votes thusly the UK is bound to transfer the territory to Ireland; not quite the Scottish situation in that regard. Let's see... 55.8% on June 24th... you know what i mean.No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
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Originally posted by kato View PostDid you really expect a non-threatening tone from the EU? I mean, we're rolling up 40 years of history. And given how for 35 years of that the UK has been oppressing and demeaning us there's a lot built up.
It's kinda funny how the yellow press on the island starts with "shock demands" and such right now.
Did anyone realistically not expect that Gibraltar would be a centerpiece to EU strategy?
Along with another piece of real estate of course. The draft insists on the full application of the Good Friday Agreement. If you want a shock demand, the Good Friday Agreement states that if a majority of Northern Ireland votes thusly the UK is bound to transfer the territory to Ireland
Probably just as well I'm not in the negotiating team. They'd be sticking the whole rotten enterprise up their Khyber pass!....
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Doesn't matter on whose insistence are they in it. It says 2 years, what's this rumbling for 6, 8 and more years?No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
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Basically, the UK doesn't want to leave the house (to stay with the divorce theme) before a trade agreement is negotiated, mostly because we'd otherwise treat them like Tunisia. Not my comparison, that's what economists over here like to compare the UK to for that situation. 6-8 years are the default time for that, and that's based on experience; that's how long it took to negotiate the similar trade agreement with Canada.
Originally posted by Toby View PostYellow Press???
Originally posted by Toby View PostThat really does show a total lack of understanding.Last edited by kato; 01 Apr 17,, 20:11.
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I've got to admit it's pretty funny watching this. Both parties (as per divorce) are in the "hurt the other party" phase.
The UK has been offered trade talks from Canada, Australasia, the US, India (though that's very low key), most of the Asia economies and even interest from China, and has very publicly and pointedly ignored the lot. The UK wants to divorce the EU but keep on fucking her/him.In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.
Leibniz
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Originally posted by Parihaka View PostI've got to admit it's pretty funny watching this. Both parties (as per divorce) are in the "hurt the other party" phase.
The UK has been offered trade talks from Canada, Australasia, the US, India (though that's very low key), most of the Asia economies and even interest from China, and has very publicly and pointedly ignored the lot. The UK wants to divorce the EU but keep on fucking her/him.
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Originally posted by kato View PostBasically, the UK doesn't want to leave the house (to stay with the divorce theme) before a trade agreement is negotiated, mostly because we'd otherwise treat them like Tunisia. Not my comparison, that's what economists over here like to compare the UK to for that situation. 6-8 years are the default time for that, and that's based on experience; that's how long it took to negotiate the similar trade agreement with Canada.
Uh, Ulster quitting the Union over the current situation is generally considered more likely than Scotland. Even on the islands.Last edited by Toby; 01 Apr 17,, 21:31.
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Originally posted by Toby View PostIts not a case of ignoring them. The UK is not allowed to carry out Trade talks with those countries until it has left the EU,In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.
Leibniz
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