Originally posted by zraver
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We are never going to agree, but at least we can agree that if one of us says “this, I believe,” the other one shouldn’t say, “I doubt that.” We should also agree not to use phrases that imply deep insider knowledge of the other guy’s head. In other words, stick to what you know.
Take, for example, your ludicrous notion that (a) Coastal Liberals (whatever that means) or “the Left” (ditto; you really should define your terms better) and (b) I myself think we should “enfranchise as many people with no obligation to pay for the policies they want as possible.”
First, we all know that coastal states in general pay more to the federal government than they get back in funding. Or, to put it another way, the redder the state, the less it carries its own fiscal weight.
Second, we all know that the track record for fiscal responsibility over the past, say, post-WWII period, is entirely on the side of the Democratic Party. Ronald Reagan determined that all by himself, and every GOPer president since then has just widened the gap between those who believe in paying for what you get and those who want to pass the costs on to the next administration, or generation. Some would argue that it is congress' fault, but they would both be wrong (the data show that when broken down by congressional leadership party) and ignorant of the notion of a presidential veto.
Third, if individual states all decided that the electoral college vote would be divided up according to the popular vote, rather than on a (mostly) winner-take-all basis, that would in essence be like making the “Coastal Liberals’” votes the only ones that count. That’s because we’re the largest portion of the population, by far.
Finally, what riles me is exactly what I said riles me, nothing more and nothing less. Anyone who seeks to disenfranchise legitimate voters, whether by purging electoral polls, closing vote casting avenues or gerrymandering districts deserves to be named, shamed and probably jailed. I'm working on the first two in my posts here.
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