2016 Turkish Coup Attempt

[Parihaka]

Weren't it the Conservatives bashing Obama for not arming the Sunni Islamists enough to topple Assad?

Hmm, how do you explain the libertarians saying we shouldn't have anything to do with any of them? Or the isolationists? Are they left wing?

Or John McCain running around and bending over backwards to protect the Muslim Brotherhood?

You seriously believe John McCain is right wing? How does open borders, globalism and big government equate with that? Aren't all right wingers supposed to be racists and nationalists?

Afterall, even the Islamists are politically what you'd call "right wing".

Since when is a bunch of idiots believing in a giant invisible boogy monster "right wing'? Are all atheists left wing? Are all left wingers atheists? How do you explain President Obama's self professed faith?

And as for clubbing all so called "lefties" together; Hollande and Obama should be propping up their ideological socialist brother Assad, not his right wing Islamist enemies, right? So maybe left or right doesn't matter; Islamists are enjoying support across the political spectrum.

Is Assad a socialist, I thought he was a totalitarian? Or are the two the same? As for his 'right wing Islamist enemies', see above.

[Parihaka]

Well,no.There are only variations of the left.There is no more a left-right spectrum.

You should come visit the Antipodes.

[Mihais]

Thanks,but I have the same sights at home ,politically speaking :))))

[sabathiel]

Which is the lesser evil? Military tyranny or religious tyranny?

[Doktor]

So many conflicting stories...

A friend said "how do you type 3000 names, let alone convictions in 12 hours?"

[Mihais]

In the middle of a coup :)))

Nah,it was a setup.Long prepared.And perhaps the officers knew they were blacklisted.

[Doktor]

There goes Erdo's mil advisor

[Officer of Engineers]

Hello, Banana Republic.

[kato]

there was F16's roaming in the sky attacking TBMM... at the same hours erdo's private jet took off and came to Istanbul... and no F16 tried to shot down him?

isnt it a bit weird?

http://nos.nl/artikel/2118186-couppl...et-vizier.html

Dutch source citing a Turkish air force officer reports that Erdogan's jet was escorted by two loyalist F-16 while two coupist F-16 were tracking all three. Unknown why they didn't fire.

Personal suspicion would be that any coupist F-16 in the air were only used for "boom scaring" over the cities and not armed; all A2G seems to have been performed by helicopters too.

[Doktor]

Personal suspicion would be that any coupist F-16 in the air were only used for "boom scaring" over the cities and not armed; all A2G seems to have been performed by helicopters too.

Just in case they don't get any weird ideas, eh?

[Tronic]

Hmm, how do you explain the libertarians saying we shouldn't have anything to do with any of them? Or the isolationists? Are they left wing?

You seriously believe John McCain is right wing? How does open borders, globalism and big government equate with that? Aren't all right wingers supposed to be racists and nationalists?

Depends if we're talking economics or social policies (not social welfare; read abortion, guns, immigration, same sex marriage, etc.).

From my own personal perception, the term "right winger", when applied away from economics, is quite solidly linked with xenophobia and intolerance in my head. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe I'm ignorant; if either is the case, feel free to give me a better idea of that word.

Since when is a bunch of idiots believing in a giant invisible boogy monster "right wing'? Are all atheists left wing? Are all left wingers atheists? How do you explain President Obama's self professed faith?

That's a question better left to the American bible belt!

Is Assad a socialist, I thought he was a totalitarian? Or are the two the same? As for his 'right wing Islamist enemies', see above.

Can totalitarians not be socialists or capitalists?

[Mihais]

Just in case they don't get any weird ideas, eh?

Man,what a clusterfvck.The idea of shooting at academy buddies gives anyone creeps.
Everyone believes they did their duty.Such things were long in the making and each case of the thousands involved meant a deep personal struggle.

Problem is everyone saw the soldiers humiliated and killed.That,without doubt,left a scar in every officer's soul.Another,bigger coup,maybe even civil war was fomented.

[Mihais]

Just in case they don't get any weird ideas, eh?

Man,what a clusterfvck.The idea of shooting at academy buddies gives anyone creeps.
Everyone believes they did their duty.Such things were long in the making and each case of the thousands involved meant a deep personal struggle.

Problem is everyone saw the soldiers humiliated and killed.That,without doubt,left a scar in every officer's soul.Another,bigger coup,maybe even civil war was fomented.

[Parihaka]

Depends if we're talking economics or social policies (not social welfare; read abortion,

Right

guns,

Definitely left

immigration,

Waay left

same sex marriage

Left of centre. Interestingly though hardly surprisingly, as the potential to be President or VP has left him, he's swung much more to the left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...of_John_McCain

[Parihaka]

From my own personal perception, the term "right winger", when applied away from economics, is quite solidly linked with xenophobia and intolerance in my head. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe I'm ignorant; if either is the case, feel free to give me a better idea of that word.

Daniel Hannan