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  • #46
    SDP, Great points all around. Modern conventional weaponry is useless without the massive support and logistic infrastructure backing it up.
    “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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    • #47
      Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
      The other side to this coin is that ISIS has no operational or organizational experience with a weapons system like modern fighters.

      Let's say ISIS manages to snag some jets and even some pilots to fly them. How do the pilots know where to go? Does ISIS have radar coverage, navigation, and communications to direct their new aircraft towards planes they want to shoot down, or away from planes coming to return the favor?
      Regarding airstrikes, without experienced FACs/JTACs and a means of communicating with them, ISIS jets are about as likely to bomb their own guys as their intended targets.

      The best they could realistically hope for would be a cool looking propaganda tool they could fly around until something breaks or it gets shot down.

      Modern military equipment isn't meant to be operated in a vacuum, and even the best group of fighters/tanks/ships will be screwed in short order if they try to go solo against an opponent who understands combined arms operations.
      If ISIS got a mach 2 fighter and someone to fly it competenlty, they wouldn't even bother to arm it. They'd do a high speed, low level dash into a target kamikaze style.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by zraver View Post
        If ISIS got a mach 2 fighter and someone to fly it competenlty, they wouldn't even bother to arm it. They'd do a high speed, low level dash into a target kamikaze style.
        The pre-flight logistics would near-insurmountable without sufficient ground crew cooperating. That's assuming that the captured base isn't being immediately smothered by tons of PGM's

        Their best bet for such an operation would be recruiting a fighter pilot to their cause and inducing him to deviate from a regularly scheduled flight.

        All in in all, not impossible, but highly improbable.
        “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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        • #49
          Lets just hope other countries are as particular about their pilots as we are. For the sake of argument that this could happen, ie a pilot going rogue, how long can a pilot deviate from a flight plan before his government drops the hammer?
          Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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          • #50
            Russian pilots were shooting each other down in the Somali-Eritrean War. And the Taliban before 11 Sept had 5 Mig21s and 10 SU22s.
            Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 11 Mar 16,, 07:42.
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