India reacts strongly to reports of US-Pak nuke pact, says 'check Islamabad's prolife

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There is no such thing as tactical nukes but all the ICBMs and SLBMs targetting are accounted for on both sides. That leaves free falls bombs and short range missiles and you can do the math of their ranges from their strike groups, ie the USS ENTERPISE.

So why would the Americans have not targetted India while the Russians did? There's more than enough nukes to go around for everyone.

[Officer of Engineers]

What? Why would the Russians targetted India? They were their allies? No, the Russian 58th Army assigned 200 nukes against China's Lop Nor because China was perceived to be American allies. Similarily, you can expect the USS ENTEPRISE's Battle Group to target their 300 nukes on India because they're perceived to be Soviet allies.

[cataphract]

What? Why would the Russians targetted India? They were their allies? No, the Russian 58th Army assigned 200 nukes against China's Lop Nor because China was perceived to be American allies. Similarily, you can expect the USS ENTEPRISE's Battle Group to target their 300 nukes on India because they're perceived to be Soviet allies.

Oh! I misunderstood your earlier post:

And removed 312 nuclear warheads (300 American, 12 Chinese) against them and put them onto India. Not as kosher as you might think.

I thought you meant 312 Russian nukes were trained on India instead of on the Chinese and the Americans.

I understand now that you were saying that being a Soviet ally automatically made India a target for American nukes.

My response is that it was inevitable. India was simply too large a country to be left alone by either power during the Cold War. If it weren't American nukes it would've been Russian ones aimed at us.

[Officer of Engineers]

My response is that it was inevitable. India was simply too large a country to be left alone by either power during the Cold War. If it weren't American nukes it would've been Russian ones aimed at us.

How many nukes were targetted on Argentina?

[Deltacamelately]

Sir,

That was then. If the American perception of India as a strategic ally in the 50s could very quickly change to perceive India as a Soviet ally and a foe .... in a decades times, based on realpolitik, why hasn't the same perception changed, from a foe in the 70s and 80s and 90s to an ally in the 21st century, with numerous strategy papers signed and military hardware purchased and military exercises done?

You have to dig deeper than this. All the answers aren't enshrined in the Cold War policies.

[Deltacamelately]

How many nukes were targetted on Argentina?

The map Colonel Sir. Its the Godamn world map.

[Officer of Engineers]

Sir,

That was then. If the American perception of India as a strategic ally in the 50s could very quickly change to perceive India as a Soviet ally and a foe .... in a decades times, based on realpolitik, why hasn't the same perception changed, from a foe in the 70s and 80s and 90s to an ally in the 21st century, with numerous strategy papers signed and military hardware purchased and military exercises done?

You have to dig deeper than this. All the answers aren't enshrined in the Cold War policies.

As of right now, there are no nukes targetted on India ... though there are nukes that can be retargetted to India (numbers ain't there, we've gone down from 70,000 to less than 10,000 active nukes, so we don't have nukes to spare for non-ready targets ... though be advised, they can be retargetted in minutes).

But look at the timeframe you're speaking of, 70s, 80s, 90s were still Cold War. 1990s was the Kuwait War. India didn't join in. India did join in for Somalia but that was an American PR disaster and quickly forgotten (besides, it was the Pakistanis who came to the American's rescue). 2000s? Afghanistan and Iraq and India was nowhere to be found. You reward those who helped you. You don't reward those who stood on the sidelines.

[Officer of Engineers]

The map Colonel Sir. Its the Godamn world map.

Food, Colonel, food. Argentina was a Western crop country.

[cataphract]

Food, Colonel, food. Argentina was a Western crop country.

Midwestern US, Canada and Australia were far better food countries than a Peronist Argentina. It simply wasn't that important on the global stage.

[cataphract]

2000s? Afghanistan and Iraq and India was nowhere to be found. You reward those who helped you. You don't reward those who stood on the sidelines.

There are a lot more opportunities for US-India cooperation in the SCS and SE Asia than in the middle-east. India has a lot of friends in the mid-east that she can't afford to antagonize for America's sake.

[Officer of Engineers]

Midwestern US, Canada and Australia were far better food countries than a Peronist Argentina. It simply wasn't that important on the global stage.

Our distribution points were already targetted. What can transport wheat can transport weapons, troops, and supplies.

Argentina wasn't targetted because we didn't have enough nukes. Knocking out combat power comes first but make no mistake, food is an extremely important commodity.

[Officer of Engineers]

There are a lot more opportunities for US-India cooperation in the SCS and SE Asia than in the middle-east. India has a lot of friends in the mid-east that she can't afford to antagonize for America's sake.

South China Seas - Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore, and Australia - already established American allies. India brings nothing to that table. SE Asia - Thailand, Singapore are American allies. Vietnam ain't looking towards Dehli. India has extremely little say in that area.

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Vietnam ain't looking towards Dehli. India has extremely little say in that area.

Vietnam actually is. It's the most viable opponent to Chinese hegemony in the region, and we have very good relations with them. Thailand is a Chinese ally, and so are Malaysia and Cambodia. Indonesia has no power projection.

[Officer of Engineers]

Thailand is an American ally. Malaysia relies on Australia more than China. Cambodia is checked by Vietnam. And the SCS is an American lake.

And truth be told, India ain't going to war for any of these countries wheras the USN can stop any war cold, including the Chinese.

[cataphract]

Thailand is an American ally. Malaysia relies on Australia more than China. Cambodia is checked by Vietnam. And the SCS is an American lake.

And truth be told, India ain't going to war for any of these countries wheras the USN can stop any war cold, including the Chinese.

Thailand and Malaysia are too flush with Chinese money to ever fight the Chinese:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opin...-30181423.html

http://www.cnas.org/sites/default/fi...aran_Final.pdf

In case of a war between India and China, the SCS is a likely theatre.