U.k.: The labour party's two word suicide note

[iolo]

Sir being rude to people who know better and not answering the points made to you is considered rude in most polite society. Many of us have had family that have fought, served or died for liberty against the tyranny of 'socialism'. Some served themselves..

Ask your Mommy to read my actual post, chiuld, and fight tour inclination to write McCarthite bilge. State capitalism is like every other capitalism - it exploits working people. You made no points.

Well Putin praised Goebbels to a meeting of Jewish leaders but I do not suspect Mihais is a fan. Nor is the Belgian Royal family dead... but it is obvious you are not here to discuss with others but shout in the old brazen trumpeting way your own distorted views, as did the others of your ilk before. I wish you a short and blind life on this forum and elsewhere.

And what has that drivel got to do with anything? You are a paid Zionist proapagandist as well as a McCarthyite fool, are you?

[iolo]

And here is a dumb wit who can't even do the friggin math. I know for sure that you have not lived through that period because you ain't wearing a diaper or being bottle fed at the moment, so let's not even pretend that you experienced that period first hand.

Hell, I could be Sara's grandfather and I still would not have lived through that period which puts your claim right where it belongs and what you read straight used toilet paper. Both in the same place.

There has been no country ruled by the workers. Hmmm, I'm sure Lech Walesa and Solidarity were Fortune 500 henchmen. Oh, but you were alive back then, weren't you? You know. You were personally there watching Soviet tanks rolled over Hungarian and Czech workers. Now, you must have been there for Tianamen Square. What about the Let 100 Flowers bloom campaign?

In fact, I do remember several Worker's Paradise. The Great Proliteriate Cultural Revolution comes to mind and then, there was Pol Pot's Classless Society ... and you know what? Both succeeded. Landlords and Management got re-educated and some even managed to lose their heads.

So, please illumniate us with your read history. I'm sure what I saw with my own eyes were just plain lies then.

Paris 1871,Russia 1917 till Kronstate, Hungary, Bavaria and Berlin briefly after the First War.. As I say, your masters quickly murder all who try democracy. You remember no worker's states, grandfer - you are just gaga. What you saw was your berainwashed DTs, you bought propagandist clown!

[iolo]

The German Communist Party DKP has a line in its party program: Stalin did wrong. He didn't kill off enough of the bourgeousie.

He was too busy murdering Bolsheviks and workers, as you know.

[TopHatter]

Ask your Mommy to read my actual post, chiuld, and fight tour inclination to write McCarthite bilge. State capitalism is like every other capitalism - it exploits working people. You made no points.

And what has that drivel got to do with anything? You are a paid Zionist proapagandist as well as a McCarthyite fool, are you?

Since you obviously couldn't take Parihaka's hint, I'll say this very simply so that you'll understand:

You are a newcomer here. You can show respect to Senior Members or you can leave. Your choice.

[Officer of Engineers]

Paris 1871,Russia 1917 till Kronstate, Hungary, Bavaria and Berlin briefly after the First War.. As I say, your masters quickly murder all who try democracy.

Funny. I distinctively remember standing the Wall against those bastards ... or are you referringto the Illumanati?

You remember no worker's states, grandfer - you are just gaga. What you saw was your berainwashed DTs, you bought propagandist clown!

I was a gaga? Well, you weren't even a dirty thought. Explain to me how I can be berainwashed when I was there. Did Moscow project invisible beams through my tin foil hate?

[cataphract]

popcorn time.

[Chunder]

... I actually thought the Mihais proposal reasonable?

[snapper]

And what has that drivel got to do with anything? You are a paid Zionist proapagandist as well as a McCarthyite fool, are you?

Didn't MaCarthy die in the 1950s? Long before my time I'm afraid and not being American I know little about it. Not sure why you might imagine me to be a Zionist either though I have been to Jerusalem to pray in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre as is the duty of Christians.

Paris 1871,Russia 1917 till Kronstate, Hungary, Bavaria and Berlin briefly after the First War.. As I say, your masters quickly murder all who try democracy. You remember no worker's states, grandfer - you are just gaga. What you saw was your berainwashed DTs, you bought propagandist clown!

Interesting... I note that your 'workers paradises' or 'communes' came about after military defeats in wars. The French defeat in the Franco Prussian War and the 'Paris Commune' and then the later 'Central Powers' defeat in WW1 to the other examples you note. I note also that you do not list the Soviet coup following the Russian defeat in WW1 as an example of this 'democratic paradise on earth'. I assume that is because the Soviets implented some form or 'order' which fast became a tyranny. I assume therefore that you are some form of 'anarcho socialist'? I assume at least that you do not recognise the former Soviet states of Eastern Europe as true 'workers republiks' or whatever term you apply to these paradises of mob rule.

Well you are right none of here saw those 'revolutions' but I saw and took part in the most recent 'revolution' in Europe, that which in Ukraine we call the 'Revolution of Dignity', though the truth is it was never intended to be a 'revolution' as such. I am damn glad it didn't turn into mob rule and the break down of law and order or many more lives would have been lost. But 'revolutions' and how they turn out are based on what the people want, the fall some monarch or ruler who has become oppressive more often than not. In Ukraine it was mostly about the corruption and then the January 16th 'dictatorship laws'. When Yanukovych left Kyiv in the night of 21st/morning of 22nd Feb the Rada/Parliament still met and the former protestors stood guard outside the building. It was vital that Constitutional legitimacy be preserved so that the 'revolution' was legitimate. Yanukovych was impeached and the acting Speaker appointed interim President by the Rada according to the votes of the deputies and in compliance with the Constitution. No doubt according to you we should have proclaimed the dictatorship of the proletariat again but to have done so would have been suicide; over 200 Lenins had been destroyed all over Ukraine in the weeks upto then and 'communisn' here is deeply associated with the Soviets and the Holodomor. The Ukrainian people didn't want your dogmatic idealism, they want less corruption, reform and western democracy. They died in Maidan for it and are still dying for on the Donbass front. Nor has Ukraine, against all odd, lost the revisionist or 'counter revolutionary' war launched against it by it's neighbour.

I surmise that your form 'paradise of earth' required defeat in war and a the armed mob returning home to accomplish it. First I do not like to lose, second no 'revolution' brought about solely by arms can claim to be 'democratic'.

[Doktor]

Paris 1871,Russia 1917 till Kronstate, Hungary, Bavaria and Berlin briefly after the First War.. As I say, your masters quickly murder all who try democracy. You remember no worker's states, grandfer - you are just gaga. What you saw was your berainwashed DTs, you bought propagandist clown!

So, if all these were that good, how come they failed? Jews or aliens?

[Gun Grape]

So, if all these were that good, how come they failed? Jews or aliens?

[antimony]

Ask your Mommy to read my actual post, chiuld, and fight tour inclination to write McCarthite bilge. State capitalism is like every other capitalism - it exploits working people. You made no points.


And what has that drivel got to do with anything? You are a paid Zionist proapagandist as well as a McCarthyite fool, are you?

Learn to spell "child", child; and your radically novel spelling of "your" is quite unamusing. It is also preferable to not start a sentence with a conjunction.

Take it from someone who has spent 30 years under communists, it helps to write properly and lucidly when you want to attract the attention of the capitalist dogs. An improperly written post will make them treat you like the plebian you undoubedly are.

On the other hand, if all you want to do is show that you are an asshat, do whatever else you can to entertain us.

[TopHatter]

Learn to spell "child", child; and your radically novel spelling of "your" is quite unamusing. It is also preferable to not start a sentence with a conjunction.

I'm guessing it's his Welsh background.

[antimony]

I'm guessing it's his Welsh background.

Well, he could have entertained us with stories of welsh lamb and Catherine Zeta Jones in the Pub, but nooooo, he had to wax philiosophical about concepts he does not understand in a language that he should be fluent in but surprsingly, is not.

[Parihaka]

So, if all these were that good, how come they failed? Jews or aliens?

I've met him before, definitely Jews.

[Chunder]

I've merely come back to the thread to enquire about the sale of tickets for the (presumed) forthcoming execution?