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Are American Values to Blame for the World's Chaos
Versus, I think this is called baiting...but I'm always a sucker for a good story. But keep in mind, I'm just a grunt with an opinion.
I think #4 should be first on your list. Do you agree?
Then we need to examine the concept of American. What is American? The government, the people, Texas, California, New York, Arkansas, Tennessee? Oregon, Colorado. I guess my point is American is a trip around the 50 states and then you can get a glimpse of American. The present government is not particularly representative of American values. Maybe by birth, but they are a bunch of politicians and I won't say anymore about them because we are supposed to avoid bashing herein. Then there is land of the free, home of the brave, apple pie, peace, love, truth, justice and the American way.. But these aren't exclusively American, they are shared values.
Of course I am all over the place because the concept of American values is so open ended...Your 4th question could evoke a whole thesis and I am sure it has. What is misleading is that whatever good there is by American values, you can find contrary issues within the US that undermine what is good about American. Racism and bigotry is still alive in the US. It's not so pure. You can always find examples to knock down American values. I was just reading the top 20 most peaceful countries to live in. America is not one of them.
So versus what do you think American values are?
I don't know what they are, that is why I've asked. My time spent in US was too short to go into depths about anything else than putting bread on the table. While I was there, the thing that I find to be most positive was the lack of stray animals in the cities and the way how that issue was handled. However, now days I am getting reports that situation has degraded rapidly and that people are having a lots of problems with irresponsible dog owners and that those attacks often have fatal outcomes. The thing that I find to be striking is that there are even organizations, like Toledo blade or project Nexus that protect dogs that killed people and defend them in courts. Since we have same problems here, notion arises that if US is having those problems than the situation passed the point of no return.
However, being at the receiving end of US foreign policy and to, some extent, US military I have some experience with the workings of how US foreign policy and politics function in reality as opposed to the picture that is painted in the media.
However, being at the receiving end of US foreign policy and to, some extent, US military I have some experience with the workings of how US foreign policy and politics function in reality as opposed to the picture that is painted in the media.
Well of course it is different. But the government is not representative of American values. The government is just the best we can get that most people will agree on. All the serious stuff that affects other people in foreign countries like yourself is all decided behind closed doors. We have no idea what goes on there. All we get is the spin. How they want to sell it to us, how they paint the picture so they can forward their plan.
They've misunderstood the question from the get go.... :)
that's like asking what do you use to drive to work - simple answer = car
someone who comprehended the question would answer - I'm a builder, I need a truck, or I'm a housewife and need a car to carry 3 kids and the dog, or I'm a sales rep and need to comply with corporate policy so have a car less than 3 years old and is american built to support local industry
simple answers usually mean an oversimplified question or a simple respondent ..... :)
it's why newspaper polls are inherently loaded - they're not geared for rocket scientists
You could do worse than 'money'. At least it is likeable & useful. Plenty of nations represented on WAB that would have much poorer associations than that for the average person.
You could do worse than 'money'. At least it is likeable & useful. Plenty of nations represented on WAB that would have much poorer associations than that for the average person.
but grasshopper - the question is what drives the response around thw word "money"
the psychologist and analyst within should go further, as money leads to other questions.
eg
is it about accumulating personal wealth
is it about a sense of security
is it because they think it earns respect
is it because money allows them to pass it on and be philanthropic
etc etc....
"money" as a monosyllabic response is fundamentally meaningless :)
You could do worse than 'money'. At least it is likeable & useful. Plenty of nations represented on WAB that would have much poorer associations than that for the average person.
To make irony even greater, my company is actually an US company.
but grasshopper - the question is what drives the response around thw word "money"
the psychologist and analyst within should go further, as money leads to other questions.
eg
is it about accumulating personal wealth
is it about a sense of security
is it because they think it earns respect
is it because money allows them to pass it on and be philanthropic
etc etc....
"money" as a monosyllabic response is fundamentally meaningless :)
Those who know don't speak
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
I know americans and have graced their shores as well.
freedom is not just about capital value.
good god i can think of any number of my american friends and colleagues who would have answered differently.
there's a failure in basic analysis by assuming otherwise
I didn't say that for the US, I said how it is understood in Serbia. Also I didn't say that that understanding is true or that I agree with it, I am just saying what majority of people here believe that it is. To sum it up, based on what people here think, the effort of spreading American values and ideology, serves as a method of consolidating the market in order for it to be overtaken by US companies and economical interests. Free market than is seen not as a fair and free market, yet the free market means free access and exploitation of the domestic resources and man power, by the US companies, in order for the US companies to generate more profit. And the liberal ideas and promotion of those ideas and values, serves as a mean of persuading the population that it is actually good that their resources are used by US companies.
That is how the process of spreading democracy and liberal values is seen here.
However I think that this is not entirely true, yet that somehow, domestic market has been hijacked by domestic oligarch that pretend that they are capitalists aka foreigners that want to invest, while in reality they are just jerks.
again, that is a limited view of the definition of freedom wrt to "money"
psychologists who have interviewed lottery winners who have identified that money is seen as something that enables people to choose. its not an idealogical issue of liberty/freedom
those people assumed that wealth provides better circumstances re issues of choice, be for themselves, or providing for those they cared about
money and freedom/power are not linear constructs.
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