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  • #16
    Pakistan army in for long haul in offensive against Taliban

    ISLAMABAD: After months of dithering, Pakistan's army has launched an offensive against Taliban insurgents near the border with Afghanistan but the tough terrain, a potentially hostile local population and the possibility of revenge attacks in heartland cities could be more difficult to conquer than the militants.

    Islamabad has been under intense US pressure for years to crush sanctuaries for militants in the region and Pakistan's move will be greeted with resolute approval in Washington, but the challenges facing its army on the ground mean it should be ready for a long haul.

    No single outside force has ever succeeded in subduing the volatile ethnic Pashtun region straddling Pakistan's western frontier with Afghanistan, its deeply tribal population fiercely independent and opposed to any invading army.

    The biggest setback may be far away from the battlefields of North Waziristan as the country braces for a wave of Taliban revenge attacks around Pakistan including in Punjab, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's political power base.

    “The biggest challenge of this operation is that our success in the tribal areas could quickly turn into losses in the plains of Punjab,” a senior military official close to the operation told Reuters.

    “Because there will be blowback and the public will get scared and Taliban sympathisers will come out and say 'we told you so'. And that's where we could lose this battle.”

    “That is Nawaz Sharif's biggest challenge,” he added: “To convince the public that it's better to bleed once than to die slowly everyday.”

    Ground offensive soon
    So far the army has resorted only to air strikes, sending F-16 and Mirage fighter jets to pound suspected militant hideouts up in the mountains in a strategy to disorient the Taliban and sow panic among their ranks.

    According to a military official close to the operation, the ground offensive will start in the next week when land forces will try to comb through North Waziristan's valleys and take over villages and buildings.

    Air raids have continued daily since Sunday, killing hundreds of fighters and no civilians, according to Pakistani military sources.

    The official account is impossible to verify as journalists are not allowed to work freely in the region.

    The success of any operation of this scale is impossible without the involvement of the United States, whose forces in neighbouring Afghanistan have crucial intelligence on the location of militant bases and training camps around the region.

    Pakistan fears the militants may slip over the border into Afghanistan once the offensive starts and indeed some senior leaders may already have.

    Pakistan says it has asked Afghanistan's army to help seal off the border from its side.

    But with most US troops leaving Afghanistan this year, it is unclear how much capacity and willingness Washington would have to get involved in another conflict far away from its shores.

    Coordination conundrum
    Once the ground operation gets under way, analysts also expect the notorious lack of coordination among Pakistan's myriad of security and intelligence agencies to hamper efforts to tackle the insurgency head-on.

    “The remote and rugged terrain is a big problem but the biggest challenge is away from the tribal areas,” said a close aide to the prime minister. “It's a question of intelligence coordination throughout the country."

    The Taliban are deeply entrenched in Waziristan's complicated patchwork of tribal alliances, blending into the local population and making it hard to distinguish them from ordinary residents.

    “The biggest challenge will be intelligence, how to get precise intelligence and then go after them,” said Imtiaz Gul, a security analyst. “They are dealing with a mobile enemy. It pops up here and there, and wherever you apply pressure they move to another place.”

    Pakistan's strategy, for now, is to encircle North Waziristan with troops and use helicopters and fighter jets to attack sanctuaries from the air.

    Before it launches a ground offensive, the army has given the region's estimated two million population several days to evacuate the area, with a large number of refugees massing in a tent camp across the border in Afghanistan's Khost province, a potential humanitarian crisis in the making.

    Those who have stayed behind are unlikely to give troops a warm welcome, analysts say, particularly in areas with traditionally strong Taliban influence.

    Even if the army's advance through the region is smooth, it is unclear what would happen afterwards and how Pakistan intends to rebuild the ruined villages to bring the refugees back.

    A similar operation in South Waziristan in 2009, which was unpopular among Pakistanis, displaced half a million people as homes, schools and hospitals were turned into hideouts by militants and meagre civic amenities were destroyed. The region remains largely undeveloped.

    “The most difficult task is not the operation, they can achieve that and clear the area,” said Muhammad Amir Rana, director of the think tank Pak Institute for Peace Studies.

    “It is in the post-operation period when many different scenarios emerge. (Taliban) support networks, their affiliates are still active in many different parts of the country.”

    So far air strikes have been targetting mainly Uzbek strongholds in North Waziristan. Allied with the Pakistani Taliban, they have no tribal affiliations in Pakistan and are seen mainly as al Qaeda's foot soldiers with little clout.

    Pakistan has always distinguished between the good and the bad Taliban, identifying some as moderates with whom the state can negotiate but the breakdown of talks has changed the picture.

    “It's difficult to distinguish between the good and the bad Taliban. It wouldn't be an ideal scenario if the good and the bad Taliban joined forces and attacked the army together,” said Saifullah Mahsud, head of the FATA Research Centre think tank.

    Pakistan army in for long haul in offensive against Taliban - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Doktor View Post
      NE,

      I don't get it. Is Pakistan actually asking Kabul to deny entrance to refugees?
      Waziristan tribes have sofar been very friendly to taleban and mercenaries from accros the borders. Their Jigra has finally confessed that they have been giving shelter to terrorists. We want them to remain in Pakistan till the ground operations have been completed and the foreign mercenaries are eliminated.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
        I hope they are also increasing security at schools for girls.
        TTP would not bother to attack girls schools, they are after high value targets only with whatever strength they have left.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by lemontree View Post
          I saw some news clippings that showed fighters that looked like the JF-17s.

          However, using fighters in COIN is counter productive, unless the government does not care for the people.
          From news reports it appears that the Pak army intends to use air power against the Taliban.

          I dont want to sound cynical, but the GHQ in Rawalpindi has lost the plot.

          Airpower is used to decimise the terrorist, actual job and the clean up will be performed by the army. We did that in Bajaur and Swat with great accuracy before, it will work again.
          Many talibs have fled to higher mountains with no villages around. There is little collateral damage.

          US is working closely with us providing live intell, two drone attacks indicate that work is well coordinated.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by umairch View Post
            The airpower is being used to reduce the ttp's infrastructure in NWA. Most of the strikes being carried out now & in previous months are based on on the ground humint & in some cases target marking by forward operating SSW detachments. Mostly Mk.82 sized LGB's are being used with GBU.10's being used for hardened structures. Before the op started a relatively large heliborne force was dropped in between the Durand Line & NWA border crossings, alongside smaller forces around known TTP & Uzbek strong holds. The main force for the op is the 7th Infantry Div with attached Army Aviation assets. The settled areas are not being attacked. The operation is of a Cordon, Corral, eliminate & hold nature. It will take time & Pak Army has greatly modified its tactics for this op.
            Thanks for that update.

            One question - What do you imply by "drop a heliborne force between the Durand Line and border crossings"? I assume the border crossing is on the Durand line, which is the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

            Also to my 3 o clock neighbors don't disparage our tactics before you've had some time to see the results. Its been only 2 days.
            This strategy has not worked for you before, what makes you think it will now. But that is your call.

            Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by notorious_eagle View Post
              In regards to the use of Air Power, Umairch has answered it. Air Power has largely been used to attack TTP Strongholds largely consisting of bunkers and hardened shelters.
              North Waziristan is the Pushtun base for a reason. It is part of their (Pushtun) notion of the pushtun nation.
              The Pak Army has been fighting these regions since the time of the Fakir of Ipi.

              Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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              • #22
                The Border is the Durand line but in NWA & other agencies abutting Afghanistan there are crossings which are unmarked. Used by smugglers & the like. I meant dropped between the Durand Line & access ways to said crossings & passes.

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                • #23
                  The notion of the Pushtun nation in present times is restricted overwhelmingly to Afghan Pasthuns. The majority of Pashtun population lives in Pakistan proper & as a matter of fact majority of Pakistani Pashtuns on the ground hate their kin from the west. The only reasons the Taliban came to be entrenched here were 1) $s. Tribesmen esp Dawar & Mehsud earned massive incomes in form of the rents they recieved from the AQ TT, Uzbek types. As such I say they have themselves to blame as much as anyone else for their predicament. 2) Terror & fear. After ingratiating themselves with the locals these elements started killing off Maliks & the political/civil workers totally fucking up the system & reducing govt writ in the area to near about nil.
                  People (apologists) say they were sheltered under Pashtunwali. Pashtunwali had nothing to do with it, only money & fear.
                  As to why an op was not launched in NWA before? Operations were done in NWA before in 2001-2 when they had started trickling in from Afghanistan. Unfortunately the Indian Parliment cock up happened at the same time. With Indian formations sitting at our front gates, we had no choice but to move the bulk of our forces to the east. That too allowed them to entrench themselves. In hind sight it is quite easy to see the what ifs what matters now is seeing this op through to a logical conclusion.

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                  • #24
                    Reuters article about the ground situation

                    (Comments in blue are mine)

                    Panicked refugees pour out of Pakistan's troubled North Waziristan

                    Their belongings piled high on buses, rickety donkey carts and tractors, thousands of refugees poured out of Pakistan's North Waziristan on Thursday, terrified by both state troops and Taliban insurgents fighting for control of the troubled region.

                    Pakistan announced the start of a full-on military offensive on Sunday to quash an increasingly assertive Pakistani Taliban insurgency in the ethnic Pashtun region, the base of some of the country's most feared al Qaeda-linked militants.

                    Troops have since encircled the mountainous region on the Afghan border and fighter jets have pounded villages and militant hideouts, sending a wave of panicked people spilling into the nearby region of Bannu, as well as Afghanistan.

                    Should the Afghans refuse entry to them too?

                    For tens of thousands of people massing in camps and private homes in Bannu, living under army control was as frightening a prospect as living in the Taliban's shadow.

                    "Waziristan was our paradise but the Taliban and security forces turned it into a hell," said Khair Mohammad, 48, a farmer who brought 20 members of his extended family to Bannu in a wagon pulled by a tractor.

                    "I didn't want to leave but my children developed serious mental problems because of the bombings by fighter jets and heavy artillery shelling by security forces."

                    The Pakistani Taliban are deeply entrenched in the complex tribal patchwork of North Waziristan's society, blending into the populace and hard to distinguish from ordinary residents.


                    Yup. Air strikes are the perfect response to this situation.

                    Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his government have tried to engage those they see as moderate Taliban in ceasefire talks but those efforts collapsed after a Taliban attack this month on Pakistan's biggest airport in Karachi.

                    In response to the army operation, the Taliban commander for North Waziristan, who had entered a peace deal with the government in 2006, announced his forces would launch a counter-offensive on Friday.

                    "It is a war of defence," a spokesman for Commander Hafiz Gul Bahadur, Ahmedullah Ahamdi, told Reuters.

                    He said the Taliban offensive had been dubbed Zarb-e-Momin, or "Strike of the True Muslim" - a clear jibe at the name of the army operation, Zarb-e-Azb, or "Strike of the Prophet's Sword".


                    It is a war to determine who are the better Muslims, Taliban or the PA. Great!

                    FEAR AND AIR STRIKES

                    Some of the displaced people said the most feared militants had disappeared overnight as soon as the army offensive was announced.

                    "It's very strange that those Taliban considered as anti-state disappeared mysteriously, but security forces continued to conduct raids on our houses and harass innocent people," said bank manager Wali Khan, 47.

                    "Why didn't they come out of their walled (army) compounds when the Taliban fighters were still in the town?"

                    He said he and other refugees had enough time to pack only the essentials for their journey and no one could say when they might be able to return home.

                    Breaking into tears, Khan added: "If I could, I would have brought my cow and other cattle. We left them behind and it was like leaving children behind."

                    Residents of the North Waziristan capital of Miranshah said more than two-thirds of families had left by Thursday, with some disappearing into the mountains.

                    Long queues stretched out of refugee centres where residents must register before leaving, as people waited for hours under the scorching sun. Women, some barefoot, used their head-to-toe burkas to shield children from the heat.

                    The army has launched daily air strikes in North Waziristan but a full-scale ground offensive has yet to start.

                    It relaxed the day-long curfew on Wednesday to allow residents to leave, triggering a sudden exodus into Bannu as well as Afghanistan's province of Khost where officials said at least 10,000 refugees were seeking shelter.

                    Officials in Bannu and nearby areas have registered ‎70,000 refugees, but the number is likely to rise as more people trickle out of North Waziristan.

                    Like I said, usual strategy of telling people to leave and then flattening villages with bombs and artillery shells.

                    The government has set up camps and refugee registration centres to control the flow, but some people said they would not use state facilities for fear of Taliban retribution.

                    "The Taliban have their informants everywhere, even at the registration centres and government departments," said Abdul Wasey, 32, who described himself as a science student.

                    "That is why we would rather die than receive any help from the government."

                    Others complained the government was doing too little.

                    "The government is treating us badly. We have done nothing. Those who were involved in militant activities have already fled," Abdul Rehman, 50, a resident of Miranshah, told Reuters. "Why we are being punished for someone else's crime?"

                    (Writing by Maria Golovnina; Additional reporting by Haji Mujtaba in Miranshah; Editing by Clarence Fernandez and Robert Birsel)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by umairch View Post
                      The Border is the Durand line but in NWA & other agencies abutting Afghanistan there are crossings which are unmarked. Used by smugglers & the like. I meant dropped between the Durand Line & access ways to said crossings & passes.
                      Second question - Does'nt the FC man the Durand line?...it may appear that they don't and the border is an open highway for them to cross.

                      The notion of the Pushtun nation in present times is restricted overwhelmingly to Afghan Pasthuns. The majority of Pashtun population lives in Pakistan proper & as a matter of fact majority of Pakistani Pashtuns on the ground hate their kin from the west. The only reasons the Taliban came to be entrenched here were 1) $s.
                      That notion exists in the highland Pashtuns like the Haqqqani. The Taliban are made up of the lowland Pashtuns.

                      As such I say they have themselves to blame as much as anyone else for their predicament. 2) Terror & fear. After ingratiating themselves with the locals these elements started killing off Maliks & the political/civil workers totally fucking up the system & reducing govt writ in the area to near about nil.
                      Why blame them and absolve the GHQ in Rawalpindi for allowing them to establish their bases there?

                      People (apologists) say they were sheltered under Pashtunwali. Pashtunwali had nothing to do with it, only money & fear.
                      Not Pastunwali but tribal affiliations.

                      As to why an op was not launched in NWA before? Operations were done in NWA before in 2001-2 when they had started trickling in from Afghanistan. Unfortunately the Indian Parliment cock up happened at the same time. With Indian formations sitting at our front gates, we had no choice but to move the bulk of our forces to the east. That too allowed them to entrench themselves. In hind sight it is quite easy to see the what ifs what matters now is seeing this op through to a logical conclusion. .
                      That is a rather feeble excuse. You have had the Afghan militias there since 1974. We are qauite aware of the genisis of the Pak-Afghan conflict and the role played by the various warlords and their affiliation with the Pak military.

                      Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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                      • #26
                        Pakistan Says 307,501 Have Fled Tribal Region
                        June 21, 2014

                        The number of Pakistanis who have fled a tribal area bordering Afghanistan where the army is fighting militants has risen to 307,501, officials said Saturday. Since Wednesday when a curfew was relaxed in North Waziristan, 25,242 families have left the area and registered at checkpoints along the way, said Arbab Muhammad Arif, who heads the administration of seven tribal regions along Afghan border. The figure includes 62,000 people who left the area of operations before June 18, he added, saying that displaced families were provided with food, drinks and 5,000 rupees ($50) per family. The curfew will remain relaxed until Sunday, he said, and the administration is expecting another 100,000 tribesmen and their families to leave.
                        ABCNews

                        I assume most of those fleeing are rural and poor. Where do all these refugees go and what happens when they get there?
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                        • #27
                          They go to Afghanistan and get put up in tent towns. Some of the fighters will also escape in the same way.

                          The border will be an increasing source of irritation in the future for both the countries as it cannot be sealed by either side. So each blames the other for providing a safe harbour.

                          For this to work it requires mil-to-mil- cooperation between both. As it is relations are not that good on the political level. And Salala compounded it for ISAF.
                          Last edited by Double Edge; 21 Jun 14,, 15:45.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                            They go to Afghanistan and get put up in tent towns. Some of the fighters will also escape in the same way.

                            The border will be an increasing source of irritation in the future for both the countries as it cannot be sealed by either side. FOr this to work it requires mil-tomil- cooperation between both. As it isrelations are not that good on the political level.
                            Why not go eastwards into Pakistan proper? Language, customs, etc?
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                            • #29
                              Zarb-e-Azb: ISPR says 80 percent of Miranshah cleared of terrorists

                              RAWALPINDI (Web Desk) - Eighty percent area of Miranshah has been cleared of terrorists, says Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).
                              Briefing local and foreign media persons, Director General ISPR and Commander Zarb-e-Azb said there was also presence of Al-Qaeda in Miranshah.
                              The journalists were told that so far 100 hideouts of terrorists were destroyed. Over 400 terrorists were killed and 130 injured during military operation.
                              No civilian has so far been killed in the operation.
                              The Commander Zarb-e-Azb said North Waziristan was centre of planning, logistic and communication for the terrorists.
                              To a question DG ISPR said all terrorists will be eliminated without any discrimination.
                              The ISPR demanded of the Afghan government to prevent entry of fleeing terrorists in Afghanistan.
                              On Wednesday, another eleven terrorists were killed as PAF jets pounded three militant hideouts in Miranshah area of North Waziristan.
                              Pak Army is using troops, tanks and jets in North Waziristan and has vowed to wipe out strongholds which insurgents have used to mount countless deadly attacks in recent years.
                              So far, more than 400 militants have been killed in the offensive while 20 soldiers have embraced martyrdom, according to the military.
                              On Tuesday, 13 terrorists were killed and their seven hideouts were destroyed by jet aircrafts in the Degan area of North Waziristan. A large part of Miranshah was cleared from terrorists in the ground and aerial offensive that continues as part of the ongoing Zarb-e-Azb operation in North Waziristan Agency.
                              According to FATA Disaster Management Authority (FDMA), more than 800,000 people have left the North Waziristan tribal area for the nearby town of Bannu, Lakki Marwat, Karak and Dera Ismail Khan since the military operation began in mid-June.
                              Officials from the FATA Disaster Management Authority (FDMA) said they were checking registrations for duplicates, meaning the figure may come down.
                              "Some 833,274 people or 66,726 migrating families from North Waziristan were registered in cities of Bannu and Peshawar until Tuesday evening," Arshad Khan, said FDMA director general.
                              He said 361,459 of the displaced were children and 248,633 women.
                              Operation Zarb-e-Azb was launched on June 15 after a dramatic attack on Karachi airport last month which killed dozens of people and marked the end of a faltering peace process with the Tehreek-e-Taliban.
                              Earlier, Army Chief General Raheel Sharif met Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and briefed him over the developments in operation Zarb-e-Azb.
                              PM stated that the operation against the militants would ensure peace in the country. The government is trying its utmost to rehabilitate the affectees.
                              General Raheel Sharif gave a detailed briefing to the Prime Minister on the progress of operation Zarb-e-Azb. Army Chief stated that the operation is being carried out along the lines chalked out.
                              General Sharif also informed the PM of the conditions of the Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) and Nawaz Sharif complimented the army men for their valor and determination. He further added that Pakistan army is achieving the set goals in minimal amount of damage deriving the operation towards success. Operation Zarb-e-Azb would ensure peace and prosperity in the region.
                              Expressing satisfaction over the efforts made by the army and all the state institutions for the help and care extended to the IDPs, PM said that the government is taking firm steps to ensure the rehabilitation of the affectees.
                              The sacrifices made by the IDPs for country’s stability and security were also acknowledged in the meeting.

                              Zarb-e-Azb: ISPR says 80 percent of Miranshah cleared of terrorists | Pakistan | Dunya News


                              Pakistan Army starts operation against TTP in Diamar Valley


                              Pakistan Army starts operation against TTP in Diamar Valley

                              GILGIT, Pakistan Army starts operation against TTP in Diamar Valley. Northern Pakistan: Pakistan Army military helicopters are busy in finding and killing terrorists as far as the lush green beautiful valley of Gilgit and Baltistan. Now operation against terrorists has been expanded to mountains of Diamer Valley. This is same place where Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) killed 12 foreign tourists last year. This Valley has been a perfect summer hideout of North Waziristani terrorists for the last 5 years but no action had ever been done against them because every time Chilas Jirga came to rescue terrorists whenever government tried to start action against them.

                              Chilas Jirga always got suspension of operation against terrorists from local administration and let terrorists to live and work in this dense forested valley. Majority of local officials has allegedly been supporting the cause of TTP that was also involved in cutting trees and selling them illegally with the alleged support of the Jirga.

                              TTP killed one Army Col and one SP Police last year. These two officials were working to find terrorists who killed tourists on Nanga Parbat trail. No operation in Diamar Valley was done even after the death of these two senior government officials of the security agencies. What was the reason and why government was not taking action in Chilas and Diamar valley? Nobody can answer this question except local administration. Local allegedly Jirga supports radical Islamisation in this area as thousands of Afghan Mujahideens settled in this area after 1979 Afghan-Russian Jihad.

                              Why Pakistan Army started operation in this area now?

                              Pakistan Army had credible information that TTP Jihadis left North Waziritsan and disappeared in Mansehra, Battle, Jangle Mangle Chilas, Babusar Top, Thak and Diamer Valley because Jihadi could not manage to run away inside Afghanistan this time due to strict security at Afghan border provided by US-Afghan forces on the request of the Pakistan Army. There is no doubt that many TTP members ran away to Afghanistan but not a big force could disappear in Afghanistan this time and Pakistan Army before starting operation ensured this leakage line.

                              On July 4, TTP attacked a police station in Darel Valley wearing army uniforms and took away arms, ammunition and police uniforms. They also directed policemen present in police station to leave government jobs and join TTP by offering them handsome salary package.

                              Now Pakistan Army is busy to find TTP members in dense forest of Thak Nullah that is at the left side of Babusar Top, Naran valley. This is the same place where TTP killed 30 bus passengers who were from Shia community of Gilgit Baltistan. Operation is also continue in Muspar Forest between Thak and Batogah Nullah.

                              Although Pakistan Army is keeping this operation low profile but locals of these areas confirmed that a full operation is on in forest and helicopters are also being used.

                              Pakistan Army starts operation against TTP in Diamar Valley

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                              • #30
                                Taliban like American soap and ladies perfume more: Miranshah vendor

                                BANNU (Dunya News) – A store owner from Miranshah Rasheed-ur-Rehman claimed on Tuesday that Taliban like American soap and ladies perfume more, adding that Taliban always paid the sought price of commodities. He said the daily sale at his shop was worth Rs 1.25 lakh and that the North Waziristan operation badly affected his business, Dunya News reported.
                                According to details, the vendor revealed that the Taliban like branded western products including Secret Love, Blue Lady and Rasasi perfumes. He said Taliban did not like products manufactured in Pakistan.

                                Taliban like American soap and ladies perfume more: Miranshah vendor | Pakistan | Dunya News

                                This is hillarious

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