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  • WaPo: China’s carrier-killer missile

    Should read Washington Times

    However, simply dismissing China’s capability to develop such a missile may have been wishful thinking. A recent report from the Washington-based Jamestown Foundation mined Chinese sources and publicly available information to conclude that America has reason to worry.
    More of the same or new information?
    All those who are merciful with the cruel will come to be cruel to the merciful.
    -Talmud Kohelet Rabbah, 7:16.

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    Not one single test

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    • #3
      Thats what I have been stating everytime I see one of these articles.

      What experience do they physically have with sinking a carrier? Answer-none.

      And the USN carriers are built nothing like the former soviet "circus wagon" they have at present.

      They can say this or that but in the end they have zero idea of how to sink a USN carrier however in contrast the USN knows an awful lot via real life war experience what it takes to sink an enemy carrier.

      First you have to find one.
      Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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      • #4
        Another Chinese proposition for killing a carrier is a mass attack by armed drones.
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        • #5
          If thats the case, I hope they are prepared for the consequences that will no doubt immediately follow any attack on a USN carrier.

          However I dont find a drone strike probable, its tough enough just to find a USN carrier and then even tougher to penetrate its CAP and escorts. There is no doubt they will see them coming.

          China has not shown much in the way of drone technology and to have them at sea on a platform such as their carrier is atleast years off in the making.
          Last edited by Dreadnought; 02 Nov 13,, 15:17.
          Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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          • #6
            The article sounds grave but the sentence "mined Chinese sources and publicly available information" suggests they don't know any more than us.
            All those who are merciful with the cruel will come to be cruel to the merciful.
            -Talmud Kohelet Rabbah, 7:16.

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            • #7
              If the Chinese were that confident, they would have done a test by now.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                If the Chinese were that confident, they would have done a test by now.
                Sir,is it a matter of lack confidence or lack of desire to stir a hornet's nest?
                Those who know don't speak
                He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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                • #9
                  The Chinese had a freighter identified to be a target several years ago. That freighter has long since gone to the scrap yards;

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                  • #10
                    Plus there is a really good chance as soon as China does a test US space based sensors will be able to record performance data which will give the US an edge in developing or improving its counter measures.

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                    • #11
                      The entire system relies on midcourse correction. What's left unsaid is that there is no way for the source for the midcourse correction to get close enough to the carrier to provide that midcourse correction. Any ship or plane trying to provide midcourse correction would be providing new fish habitats long before they can even find the carrier to provide that midcourse correction.

                      Of course, if the ship or plane can find the carrier to provide that midcourse correction, why doesn't it launch its own weapons?

                      This entire thing started out as a nice idea, then the Chinese learned that it needs midcourse correction. After that, the idea got sunk.
                      Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 03 Nov 13,, 21:34.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                        The entire system relies on midcourse correction. What's left unsaid is that there is no way for the source for the midcourse correction to get close enough to the carrier to provide that midcourse correction. Any ship or plane trying to provide midcourse correction would be providing new fish habitats long before they can even find the carrier to provide that midcourse correction.

                        Of course, if the ship or plane can find the carrier to provide that midcourse correction, why doesn't it launch its own weapons?

                        This entire thing started out as a nice idea, then the Chinese learned that it needs midcourse correction. After that, the idea got sunk.
                        Couldn't a military satellite provide the required midcourse correction?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cataphract View Post
                          Couldn't a military satellite provide the required midcourse correction?
                          Not realtime.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                            Not realtime.
                            Why not? All it would take is a good GPS (Beidou in this case) and a connection with the missile.

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                            • #15
                              Because to date, it takes a human eye to distinguish between a freighter and a carrier. The satellite may take a picture but it takes hours of analysis to say this is a carrier.

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