Originally posted by dave lukins
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To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato
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1862: Battle of Chantilly (Ox Hill), Virginia
The Battle of Chantilly Summary & Facts | Civilwar.org
1863: Battle of Devil's Backbone (Backbone Mountain)
Battle of Devil's Backbone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1864: Confederates evacuate Atlanta, Georgia“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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Dave, also recall that accoding to the Constitution each slave counted as 3/5ths of a human being for population purposes to determine Congressional districts.
It was not rescinded until the 13th & 14th Amendment after the ACW.“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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Originally posted by dave lukins View PostIt's just astonishing in the cold light of day how one set of human beings classed another set of human beings even down to not classing one set as a whole being.
It wasn't, so far as I understand, a matter of evaluating the black race compared to the white race.
When it came to the intrinsic value of coloreds, southerners and to a lesser extent northerners, considered them totally inferior to whites.To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato
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To add a bit more to the discussion, the word slave is not mentioned in the Constitution until the 13th Amendment.
Under the Articles of Confederation each state had a vote. At the Constitutional Convention Edmund Randolph of Virginia laid out the Virginia Plan which proposed voting density based on population. This made sense to Virginia as it was the most populous states. However if only whites were counted Pennsylvania was almost as populous as Virginia. To move the plan forward a delegation proposed the slave population would count as 3/5s of a person when determining population. While it seemed as a way ahead Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts sneeringly replied
"Blacks are property, and are used to the southward as horses and cattle to the northward; and why should their representation be increased to the southward on account of the number of slaves, than horses or oxen to the north?"
Eventually compromise was reached....but that is what our Constitution is, one Grand Compromise.
For more on this topic;
Garrison's Constitution“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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1861: Confederate troops enter Kentucky, ending the state's neutral status
1862: Confederate forces under Braxton Bragg capture Frankfurt, the capital of Kentucky
1863: Lord Russell orders two ironclad Laird Rams bound for the Confederacy to be detained“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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1862: Robert E. Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia enters Maryland
Ton's of info on South Mountain & the Antietam Campaign to be found here
Battle Search Results
And here
Antietam National Battlefield - Antietam National Battlefield“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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The Battle of Antietam begins in 2 weeks. I've been passing the battlefield every week for the last 6 months while traveling back and forth between Winchester and Chambersburg. I took a detour off 81 through Williamsport the other day. Not much to see there on a drive thru. I think I'll stop at the battlefield on my next trip.To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato
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Originally posted by JAD_333 View PostThe Battle of Antietam begins in 2 weeks. I've been passing the battlefield every week for the last 6 months while traveling back and forth between Winchester and Chambersburg. I took a detour off 81 through Williamsport the other day. Not much to see there on a drive thru. I think I'll stop at the battlefield on my next trip.
Antietam is one of my favorite eastern battlefields of the ACW. You can stand behind the visitors center and see almost all of the relevant parts of the battlefield less Burnside Bridge.“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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Originally posted by Albany Rifles View PostJAD, if you get a chance head east on Old US 40...you come out on the South Mountain battlefield. Nice interpretation doen their as well.
Antietam is one of my favorite eastern battlefields of the ACW. You can stand behind the visitors center and see almost all of the relevant parts of the battlefield less Burnside Bridge.
I might just do that. Thanks.To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato
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To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato
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