Thought there was probably some serious discussion going on in here. Took one peak and seems like 'doppelganger' nose dived this thread as well.
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Originally posted by Tronic View PostThought there was probably some serious discussion going on in here. Took one peak and seems like 'doppelganger' nose dived this thread as well.
The premise being an Australian challenging Hinduism's claim to being the world's oldest religion, a FACT accepted by most intelligent and well informed people across the world, on the basis of some cave drawings in the Australian outback by aboriginal tribes.
You think any self respecting Hindu would even bother dignifying such crap with a response?
Give me a break Tronic bhai. Absurdity has limits, and Bigfella plumbs them every time he speaks.
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Originally posted by doppelganger View PostWas there a "thread" worth its name to begin with?
The premise being an Australian challenging Hinduism's claim to being the world's oldest religion, a FACT accepted by most intelligent and well informed people across the world, on the basis of some cave drawings in the Australian outback by aboriginal tribes.
As for 'cave drawings' they are what historians call 'facts'. Sure you've heard of them, though I suspect you don't use them awfully much.
You think any self respecting Hindu would even bother dignifying such crap with a response?
Give me a break Tronic bhai. Absurdity has limits, and Bigfella plumbs them every time he speaks.Last edited by Bigfella; 13 Apr 13,, 10:01.sigpic
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Bigfella, you do not know the basic difference between tribal lore and rituals and what constitutes a world religion.
Please come and talk to me once you have educated yourself.
Till then please continue to ignore me as you once threatened to, but sadly never kept up your side of the bargain.
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Originally posted by Bigfella View PostYeah. Kick me while I am down Doc. You Balkan folk truly are a cruel race.No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
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Originally posted by doppelganger View PostBigfella, you do not know the basic difference between tribal lore and rituals and what constitutes a world religion.
Please come and talk to me once you have educated yourself.
re·li·gion [ri-lij-uhn] noun
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Now, some education:
Australian Aboriginal mythologies have been characterised as "at one and the same time fragments of a catechism, a liturgical manual, a history of civilization, a geography textbook, and to a much smaller extent a manual of cosmography."
An Australian linguist, R. M. W. Dixon, recording Aboriginal myths in their original languages, encountered coincidences between some of the landscape details being told about within various myths, and scientific discoveries being made about the same landscapes.[5] In the case of the Atherton Tableland, myths tell of the origins of Lake Eacham, Lake Barrine, and Lake Euramo. Geological research dated the formative volcanic explosions described by Aboriginal myth tellers as having occurred more than 10,000 years ago. Pollen fossil sampling from the silt which had settled to the bottom of the craters confirmed the Aboriginal myth-tellers' story. When the craters were formed, eucalyptus forests dominated rather than the current wet tropical rain forests.[6][7] (See Lake Euramo for an excerpt of the original myth, translated.)
Dixon observed from the evidence available that Aboriginal myths regarding the origin of the Crater Lakes might be dated as accurate back to 10 000 years ago.[6]
It is always integral and common.. that the Law (Aboriginal law) is something derived from ancestral peoples or Dreamings and is passed down the generations in a continuous line. While..entitlements of particular human beings may come and go, the underlying relationships between foundational Dreamings and certain landscapes are theoretically eternal... the entitlements of people to places are usually regarded strongest when those people enjoy a relationship of identity with one or more Dreamings of that place. This is an identity of spirit, a consubstantiality, rather than a matter of mere belief..: the Dreaming pre-exists and persists, while its human incarnations are temporary."
In 1926 a British anthropologist specialising in Australian Aboriginal ethnology and ethnography, Professor Alfred Radcliffe-Brown, noted many Aboriginal groups widely distributed across the Australian continent all appeared to share variations of a single (common) myth telling of an unusually powerful, often creative, often dangerous snake or serpent of sometimes enormous size closely associated with the rainbows, rain, rivers, and deep waterholes
In particular, scholars suggest the Murrinh-patha have a oneness of thought, belief, and expression unequalled within Christianity, as they see all aspects of their lives, thoughts and culture as under the continuing influence of their Dreaming. Within this Aboriginal religion, no distinction is drawn between things spiritual/ideal/mental and things material; nor is any distinction drawn between things sacred and things profane: rather all life is 'sacred', all conduct has 'moral' implication, and all life's meaning arises out of this eternal, everpresent Dreaming.
So, lets go through the definition in light of the evidence:
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe
especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies
usually involving devotional and ritual observances
and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
You may choose to dismiss a belief system that perfectly fits the definition of a religion because you look down on its practitioners and because it doesn't fit some cherished narrative you have about Indian exceptionalism. That reflects on you rather than the facts. You aren't intrested in education, just sloganeering.
Till then please continue to ignore me as you once threatened to, but sadly never kept up your side of the bargain.sigpic
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