When the Iowas were reactivated, what escort ships did they have?

[dundonrl]

and then put a bag of four simulated SS-N-14s in Missouri's guts. We got nailed before we could make good our escape, but we felt we had died a glorious death for Mother Russia.

and the Missouri's CO called away sweepers, swept the scrap from the missiles over the side and continued on.. :D

[TopHatter]

and then put a bag of four simulated SS-N-14s in Missouri's guts.

That's an ASW weapon

[TopHatter]

That's an ASW weapon

I stand corrected :red:

There are different anti-submarine variants ('Metel') for cruisers and frigates, and a later version with a shaped charge ('Rastrub') that can be used against shipping as well as submarines.

85RU/URPK-5 Rastrub, KT-100U launcher. Entered service 1975. Carries either AT-2 (APR-2E ?) (E53-72) or UGMT-1 torpedo (E45-75A) and an additional anti-shipping warhead of 185 kg.

[navydavesor]

If they were to reactivate the battleships today, they would be escorted the same way a CVN would be. That includes a Ticonderoga-class CG and three Arleigh Burke-class DDGs with a possible T-AKE replenishment ship and a possible SSN. This would enable them to operate in all but the highest threat environments.

[Dreadnought]

If they were to reactivate the battleships today, they would be escorted the same way a CVN would be. That includes a Ticonderoga-class CG and three Arleigh Burke-class DDGs with a possible T-AKE replenishment ship and a possible SSN. This would enable them to operate in all but the highest threat environments.

Not possible, probable. Your capital ships always have subs lurking nearby. They may not make their presence known unless they choose to. Even if a country like China or Russia tails a battlegroup or carrier in transit like they did the Kittyhawk. Basic submarine tactics. Who is watching those that are watching.;)

[DonBelt]

An Iowa refueled a PHM?!? Did ANYONE get any pictures of that?

So I have put on the way-back cap and need to make a clarification. Although my memory says the PHM unrepped from the Iowa, I located our oil king from those days and he says that we unrepped the PHM's not the Iowa. He recalls it because of the fuel that we provided them. We did unrep from the Iowa. I'm still trying to track down some pictures- I know one of my old shipmates has some, he posted them once before but it was a few years back.

Facebook is a neat thing although not everyone likes it. I've gotten to touch bases with many of my former shipmates and compare stories and pictures and this site has been great too because I've learned things about the construction and design of my ship (thanks Rusty) and been able to share that with my old friends.

[TopHatter]

he says that we unrepped the PHM's not the Iowa.

What ship was that Don?

[DonBelt]

USS Stump DD-978. We unrepped a a PHM (don't remember which one) from the aft port fuel pit. Around the same time we were doing ops with the Iowa and we unrepped from them. That's the one I'm trying to find some photos from- I'm shaking down some of my friends from the ship's page to see who has them.

[RustyBattleship]

If they were to reactivate the battleships today, they would be escorted the same way a CVN would be. That includes a Ticonderoga-class CG and three Arleigh Burke-class DDGs with a possible T-AKE replenishment ship and a possible SSN. This would enable them to operate in all but the highest threat environments.

I recall going out on New Jersey's second sea trial. The first one was not too dramatic as she had to plow through the tail end of a Hurricane off of the west coast of Baja Mexico. So she couldn't do her speed run. But on her second trial, we had SECNAV Lehman on board for a few hours and let loose with the forward turrets.

We had escorts up the ying-yang on that trial. Helicopters circling around dragging special gizmos to detect Submarines (so I was told). and on the speed run at 200-210 rpm for 8 hrs we ran our first 1052 class escort out of breath and an FFG 7 class had to take its place.

But for any Capital ship, you WILL have escorts. Whether you can see them or not.

Except for when New Jersey was ordered to Lebanon. I was giving a briefing as to what additional work we were going to do on her and when I got back to the office was when I was told she just exited the Panama Canal and was heading Northeast. Rather than slowing down and using up her fuel to refuel her escorts, the escort ships were left behind and she shot across the Atlantic and was in the Med before the Syrians knew she left Jacksonville. All of her fuel tanks had been totally overhauled so the MPA merely filled up all Overflow tanks and Contaminated Fuel tanks so she had 105% capacity load.

Ah. Those were the days when we had a REAL Navy.

[Doktor]

Is there any more Real Navy around?

[DonBelt]

Of course. No more 600 lb or 1200 lb boilers maybe, but as long as there are tin cans there is Real Navy. Now once they start coming out with large ships that are mainly automated I can't say, but for now there are still surface warfare vessels (i.e. destroyers) that get tossed around, have deck hands working rigging, small boats and doing marlinspike seamanship. Gunner's mates working in Gun mounts (ya, lots of it automated but still the human is in the system) sailors standing watch. It's still there, but like anything else it will change. What we call Real Navy now, thinking of boilers and the like was once fantasy to the old black gangs and colliers, who were nuts to the old canvas guys. Once they get to all UCAV's and automated sytems and remotely piloted systems, then it won't be Real Navy. But for now there are still steel ships going into harm's way and that is Navy enough for me.

[85 gt kid]

Only old school ship i know thats still around is Peru's all gun cruiser (atleast i think its Peru).

[DonBelt]

Well, if that's the standard, the Philipines still operate a Cannon class DE, Mexico still operates a Gearing class DD and an Edsall class DE. Or Peru, that still operates old ex-US Loreto river gunboats. Their all gun cruiser is an ex-dutch cruiser, the BAP Almirante Grau (CLM-81). I'm not sure though by what you mean as old school- all gun, or boilers?

[SharkPilot]

We had escorts up the ying-yang on that trial. Helicopters circling around dragging special gizmos to detect Submarines (so I was told). and on the speed run at 200-210 rpm for 8 hrs we ran our first 1052 class escort out of breath and an FFG 7 class had to take its place.

Just a quick question:
I thought the 1052's and FFG's topped out around 29 knots. How could they keep up with an Iowa running at 200-210 RPM? Wouldn't that be someplace around 32 knots?

Thanks.

[navydavesor]

But for any Capital ship, you WILL have escorts. Whether you can see them or not.

Except for when New Jersey was ordered to Lebanon. I was giving a briefing as to what additional work we were going to do on her and when I got back to the office was when I was told she just exited the Panama Canal and was heading Northeast. Rather than slowing down and using up her fuel to refuel her escorts, the escort ships were left behind and she shot across the Atlantic and was in the Med before the Syrians knew she left Jacksonville. All of her fuel tanks had been totally overhauled so the MPA merely filled up all Overflow tanks and Contaminated Fuel tanks so she had 105% capacity load.

Ah. Those were the days when we had a REAL Navy.

That's some pretty incredible stuff!!! I took a few SSNs through the Panama Canal, and the pilot was on one of our small boats. I asked about the battleships, and he said when they took New Jersey through for Camden, they were so very careful to center the ship perfectly so nothing touched, and they almost lost their minds doing it.

Then, he pointed to the scrapes going along side the walls and said that when they took Iowa through, they were not nearly as careful, and she banged back and forth all the way through the locks!