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Don't be stupid. Sex is a weapon in espionage. The DCI sets the standard and while he may not be exploited for intelligence gains by Greece (or wherever), others below him face that very real possibility.
Second, leadership beyond that narrow fact includes exercising true faith and allegiance. If you'll cheat on your wife as a key leader, am I supposed to trust you with the decisions made affecting me? Petraeus didn't have his wife's six. Why would he have mine?
This ain't fcukin' France...or Greece.
"This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
He cheated his wife, he'll cheat your country and/or is not capable for the job?
So, you are in charge to hire his successor who'd you choose, someone with incredible record, divorcing his 3rd wife because she learned he was with this hot chick, or a married man with 3 kids with average record?
Petraeus got caught, can't keep a secret, so he should go, but because he got caught, not because he was banging some not so hot woman.
No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
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Bill Clinton
There is an expectation on politicians that they might be slimy, and are tolerated as long as they get the job done.
I don't think they are looked on as model citizens as much as senior military officers.
Everyone of all political colors looked up to General Petraeus with a great deal of respect, and that trust and aura is broken when he is reduced to a mere mortal like this.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus
Just an observation on the times back then and now. When sex was more difficult to come by, the media kept mum about the dalliances of leaders: Warren Harding, FDR, JFK and Eisenhower were all known to have extramarital affairs, but their 'secret' was kept. Today, sex is as easy to get as candy bars and every kind of sex is tolerated, yet now more than ever it's deemed worthy of news coverage and every minute detail must be explored. Yes, Petreus should have resigned, because sex is, as someone mentioned earlier, a top tool in intelligence work, but did the real reason have to be broadcast far and wide? Now we have Gen Allen being sucked in by innuendo, and all sorts of little, irrelevant alleyways being explored by the media to puff this affair up in to a super-scandal. The article said we're "reeling" from the scandal. That wouldn't be because the MSM is doing the reeling, would it?
To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato
"...I just wish we would all Move On from such provincial attitudes."
Out here in the "provinces" attitudes about trust, honor and personal integrity might actually matter when your life is held in the hands of somebody who can get you killed.
"This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
"...I just wish we would all Move On from such provincial attitudes."
Out here in the "provinces" attitudes about trust, honor and personal integrity might actually matter when your life is held in the hands of somebody who can get you killed.
Well gee whizz, good thing it wasn't the President then. Think how bad that would be.
Well gee whizz, good thing it wasn't the President then. Think how bad that would be.
-dale
Quick question (too all who care to respond).
From talks with my family members and others it has been clear to me that at least for enlisted and minor ranking officers, a pretty good percentage are looking for some on the side while away from home. Is this not correct? and if it is at what point is this behavior at odds with career advancement?
Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.
From talks with my family members and others it has been clear to me that at least for enlisted and minor ranking officers, a pretty good percentage are looking for some on the side while away from home. Is this not correct? and if it is at what point is this behavior at odds with career advancement?
For the junior enlisted, that may be so, but not as prevalent as you think. Most of the married guys that were looking for a little adventure on deployment already had marriage issues at home.
And on every deployment I've made it was heavily frowned upon. The E-3 that is cheating on his wife on deployment will never be a Corporal with leadership responsibility.
The "What goes on" motto applies to getting drunk and relaxing a bit/fraternizing around/with your junior Marines (something that you will never do back in the States). Not being unfaithful to your wife.
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