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    2-state solution is dead

    Op-ed: Palestinians, who refused 90% of land they demand, not real peace partners
    Dan Calic Published: 10.25.12, 10:36 / Israel Opinion

    Allow me to make what should be an obvious statement: The two-state solution is dead, has been for quite a while. For years the general thinking was the Arabs favored the two-state solution, while Israel was against it. However in the 2000 Camp David ll negotiations there was a shift of significant proportions.

    Then Prime Minister (now Defense Minister) Ehud Barak offered more than 90% of Judea and Samaria (commonly known as the West Bank). He was also willing to divide Jerusalem. In the end Yasser Arafat rejected it, because he refused to settle for anything less than 100% of his demands. These included Muslim control over the Old City of Jerusalem, the site of Judaism's most sacred places - the Western Wall and Temple Mount. This would deny Jewish access, as was the case for almost 1900 years until 1967.

    It was once said that Arafat never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Camp David ll was seen by many as the greatest of his "missed opportunities."

    However, two critical elements emerged from Camp David ll: First, Israel was willing to pay a high price for peace by accepting a hostile Arab state next to the most densely populated section of the country, placing several million Israeli civilians within range of rockets. One could easily define this as a "bold sacrifice for peace," which many western leaders often demand of Israel. The second critical element which emerged is the Arabs refused to accept anything less than 100% of their demands.

    Since then, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert made an offer more generous than Barak's. It was also rejected. Current Prime Minister Netanyahu has said he would accept an Arab state. Again, rejection. In fact Mahmoud Abbas has not only rejected the offer, on several occasions he stated he will never accept Israel as a Jewish state, even if the Arabs get their own state. Just recently in an open letter to Gazans he referred to 100% of Israel, as "occupied Palestine."

    Thus, with at least three Israeli PMs willing to accept a Palestinian state, based on a negotiated settlement, it's clear Israel is not standing in the way of a two state solution. It's the Arabs. Yet we continue to hear calls for it, as well as criticism of Israel from world leaders for not doing enough to bring it about.

    Hence the question, isn't the fundamental premise of negotiations based on compromise? This suggests each party is expected to show flexibility in order to facilitate an agreement. By Israel's willingness to give up over 90% of the land demanded by the Arabs, they are clearly doing their part. It's the Arabs who refuse to compromise. In fact, Mahmoud Abbas has made demands which he requires be met before face to face negotiations take place. His thinking renders the very concept of "negotiations" meaningless.

    For those who still wish to pursue a two-state solution, may I suggest their efforts be directed at those who have been steadily killing it - the Arabs.

    Moreover, to set the record straight, the two-state solution is not unique. One has already been attempted. UN resolution 181 passed in 1947 by a 72% majority, apportioned one Jewish and one Arab state. Every Arab country voted against it. Not only that, the day after Israel declared independence in May 1948 five Arab countries attacked, trying to destroy it. The names of the players have changed since then, however the game remains the same - a Jewish state of Israel is unacceptable.

    Today there are 22 Arab countries, with a combined population of over 370 million in the Middle East. The overwhelming majority are openly hostile toward Israel. Conversely, Israel is the size of New Jersey with roughly six million Jews. If the Palestinians refuse to accept over 90% of the land they demand, plus reject Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, the time has come to speak bluntly.

    The Palestinians leadership has a singular goal of Israel's destruction. This is confirmed in the charters of Hamas (articles 6, 7, 13 & 15), the PLO (articles 9, 15, 21) and Fatah (articles 9, 12, 17 & 19). The charters also require the Jews return to subjugation under Muslim rule, as was the case for centuries prior to Israel's rebirth in 1948.

    Absent of good faith or willingness to compromise, the Palestinians don't deserve to be viewed as serious peace partners.

    Given Abbas' statements that he will never accept a Jewish state, and that he considers all of Israel "occupied" Palestine, maybe his two-state solution doesn't include Israel. Could it be his two states are Jordan and Palestine?

    With the two-state solution clearly dead, I unapologetically invite those who continue to pursue it to its long overdue funeral. It should be presided over by Mahmoud Abbas, along with representatives from Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLO and the rest of the Arab world, since they, not Israel, are responsible for its death. All pragmatists are invited.

    Dan Calic is a writer, historian and speaker. See additional articles on his Facebook page
    I've been repeating this for years. The Palestinians are not, haven't been and at the rate they're going will never be true partners for peace
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    What's news in this particular piece?
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    • #3
      I have a much more basic question..

      Can either Israel or the Pals sustain themselves for any significant period of time without external funding and will either state remain viable after ?

      Israel fares better of the two but that's dependent on Jews staying put or arriving and believing their life is better within than not. The existential threat Israel faces and has always faced is more Jews leaving Israel than entering which threatens the entire project. Attacks or wars will not make the Jews leave. Struggling to grow & maintain themselves to me seems more dangerous. Israel might have been able to pull this off in the founding decades but is that still true today and into the future.

      Unless there are concrete answers to the above question for both people, then the most efficient & sustainable path is to have x jews or y pals die or suffer at regular periods, generating the requisite headlines in the worlds newspapers so supporters of either peoples national myths continue to fund their preferred brand. Yes, brand, Israel & Palestine are household brands known the world over today.

      Where does the talk of partner of peace or even peace process in this scenario go ? nowhere, its just pablum. The way forward is a manageable conflict that endures indefinitely. Pals cannot endanger Israel or vice-versa. Both sides continue to attract funding at the expense of the unlucky few from either camp, who must believe that were taking one for their team.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
        I have a much more basic question..

        Can either Israel or the Pals sustain themselves for any significant period of time without external funding and will either state remain viable after ?

        Israel fares better of the two but that's dependent on Jews staying put or arriving and believing their life is better within than not. The existential threat Israel faces and has always faced is more Jews leaving Israel than entering which threatens the entire project. Attacks or wars will not make the Jews leave. Struggling to grow & maintain themselves to me seems more dangerous. Israel might have been able to pull this off in the founding decades but is that still true today and into the future.

        Unless there are concrete answers to the above question for both people, then the most efficient & sustainable path is to have x jews or y pals die or suffer at regular periods, generating the requisite headlines in the worlds newspapers so supporters of either peoples national myths continue to fund their preferred brand. Yes, brand, Israel & Palestine are household brands known the world over today.

        Where does the talk of partner of peace or even peace process in this scenario go ? nowhere, its just pablum. The way forward is a manageable conflict that endures indefinitely. Pals cannot endanger Israel or vice-versa. Both sides continue to attract funding at the expense of the unlucky few from either camp, who must believe that were taking one for their team.
        When I was a student, I worked one summer at Ericsson, (cell phones) during this time I saw a lot of components from Israel, mostly circuits, but this was a long time ago. Israel has production of components for the high technological industry and is exporting a lot of it, or they did. However, I assuming the highly advanced defense industry in Israel is spreading to the civilian market as well. With other products coming from Israel (agriculture, wine) I think Israel can sustain itself. The Palestinians, umm, they have been a labor force in Israel, I don't know if that is the case any longer. If we are assuming there is a Palestinian state (Gaza and the West Bank) they could live on tourism, especially in Gaza. I doubt the tourism alone would sustain the Palestinians, though

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        • #5
          "...I doubt the tourism alone would sustain the Palestinians, though"

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          • #6
            2 state solution is dead so long as fanatics on both sides continue to have influence in the conflict.

            The only way things change is when people from both camps decide to sideline the fanatics. The tipping point is when both are exhausted and fed up of the killing. As then neither side will care what their uncompromising fanatics have to say. Both people will then realise that the 2 state solution is the only solution that they ever had, whether they like it or not. They will need to make hard compromises and grit their teeth. A peace settlement between enemies. It won't be a happy conclusion but its one people will be able to live with. It will certainly be better than the present status quo.

            But when will this happen.

            Amos Oz talks about this in a recent, very recommended, talk [mp3] at a free thinking festival in the UK. The clash of right vs right as he terms it. Some times its wrong vs wrong, many times its just that. He's been a supporter of the two state solution since '67. He makes it very clear that within this particular context the meaning of compromise does not have to mean capitulation and the opposite of compromise is more fanaticism and death.

            My take:
            Until such time should both peoples continue to kill each other. Does the killing need to go on until that tipping point is reached. But after each bout both sides take a breather, recoup and start over. Its like the old wounds just heal up and its a new episode, each time, every time, in this never ending tragic circus. Because the world will not allow either side to whack the other more than what amounts to the strategic equivalent of a pinprick for either side. This the world can live with. Its by and large a stable conflict, kinda. Overflows sometimes but not by too much or for very long.

            That means the tipping point just takes longer because neither side ever gets close enough nor wants to.

            The thing about this conflict is it still retains its insurgency like nature even after the Israelis withdrew from the territories, in the sense the civvies still get brutalised the most. Both sides can continue to pump out as much propaganda about their respective causes as they want but the world really is powerless to do anything about it until these two people themselves decide they have to do something about it ie reach a political settlement.
            Last edited by Double Edge; 14 Nov 12,, 07:06.

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            • #7
              Interesting article in Haaretz saying that the man who Israel assassinated had drafted and sent a long-term peace proposal to the Israeli government hours before he was taken out.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by NeilE View Post
                Interesting article in Haaretz saying that the man who Israel assassinated had drafted and sent a long-term peace proposal to the Israeli government hours before he was taken out.
                Israeli Peace Activist: Ahmed Jabari, Assassinated Hamas Leader, Received Draft Of Gaza Truce Agreement Shortly Before Death

                Posted: 11/16/2012 2:30 am EST Updated: 11/16/2012 2:35 am EST

                An Israeli peace activist has come forward with a blockbuster claim about the assassination of Hamas leader Ahmed Jabari that, if true, would represent a major twist in the recent escalation of conflicts between Israeli and Palestinian forces.

                Gershon Baskin, who has reportedly mediated between Israel and Hamas in the past, told Haaretz on Thursday that Jabari, at the time of his death, had just received a draft of a "permanent truce agreement with Israel."

                Per Haaretz:

                Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the cease-fire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip. This, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit and has since then maintained a relationship with Hamas leaders.
                Baskin told Haaretz on Thursday that senior officials in Israel knew about his contacts with Hamas and Egyptian intelligence aimed at formulating the permanent truce, but nevertheless approved the assassination.

                "I think that they have made a strategic mistake," Baskin said, an error "which will cost the lives of quite a number of innocent people on both sides."
                Jabari was killed in a surgical airstrike on Wednesday as part of a larger Israeli offensive in Gaza. "This is an operation against terror targets of different organisations in Gaza," an Israeli spokeswoman said at the time.

                Called Operation "Pillar of Defence," the offensive dashed hopes of progress toward a truce between Israel and Hamas that might have ended months of roiling tensions and violence in the region.

                Since Wednesday, conflicts has escalated. Palestinian militants reportedly "barraged Israel with nearly 150 rockets on Thursday," and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated plans for "significant widening" of military strikes.

                Said Netanyahu:

                No government would tolerate a situation where nearly a fifth of its people live under a constant barrage of rockets and missile fire, and Israel will not tolerate this situation. This is why my government has instructed the Israeli Defense Forces to conduct surgical strikes against the terrorist infrastructure in Gaza. And this is why Israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people.
                Israeli Peace Activist: Ahmed Jabari, Assassinated Hamas Leader, Received Draft Of Gaza Truce Agreement Shortly Before Death
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