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Originally posted by Ken_NJ
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Personally I never thought she'd go to sea again. A fire that hot does really interesting things to carbon steel. I don't imagine a dive to test depth was something people would have looked forward too.
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Blacksmithing a submarine hull.....
Originally posted by desertswo View Post
Ever since my first hand experience running the bellows on Granddad's forge and watching plates of steel and iron turn color the metallurgy of stuff has been a thing of interest.
Submarine steel is an alloyed steel with manganese and molybdenum as a key components. When those pictures were posted of the Miami burning and all that water aiding the change of structure to a preheated metal..... I assumed she was done for! An earlier post recited that a replacement forward section would be attached from another sub being retired, also caused my teeth to grind.
The O-6 is correct, there would not be a long list of names on the roster for the taking the Miami deep after all of this history!Comment
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You know what my introduction to what really hot fires does to HY-80 was? My first ship, USS Constellation. She had a tragic fire while under construction in NYNSY and a lot of people died; but for our purposes here, the forward third of the ship was forever changed. All of the decks from the third deck on up to the 03 level were "wavy." That's the only way to describe it. Tile never staid properly laid for very long because of it, PMS on watertight and fumetight doors and hatches was a gold plated bitch, and just walking without catching the toe of your boondocker on one of the "wave tops" was rare. BUSHIPS signed off on sending her to sea, but the difference is that she never had to go to 1000 feet, or whatever the test depth is for the LA class. God help us if that had been the case.Originally posted by blidgepump View PostComment
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Ha!- there always seems to be a "phantom shitter" on every ship. We had one and we could never catch him at it, but the rumor was that it was a j.o. and not an enlisted man. As far as yardbirds, we were in norshipco in Norfolk and we had guys who would come on board on Sunday, come down to our birthing space and sit around watching tv. They would boast about being excons and releasees that the gov't forced the yards to hire, and they would come on board on Sunday to be on the clock for overtime and then do no work because they were working in enclosed spaces and didn't have the union guy there who did the gas-free testing to allow them to enter the space. Free money for them. Meantime we have nowhere to sit in our own "living room" so they can rip us off.Originally posted by Ytlas View PostComment
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Capt,
Does the Navy have insurance for ships when they are involved in non-combat related damage? Understanding that it would make no difference in the Miami's case because of the metallurgy changes that you mentioned, but perhaps it would help with replacement costs. I know LLoyd's insures private shipping- do they cover military vessels as well?Comment
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Nope, those are your taxpayer dollars that the knucklehead flushed down the porcelain fixture. No insurence, etc. All "sunk cost" (initial purchase cost plus a set figure for operations and maintenance in the outyears) gone.Originally posted by DonBelt View PostComment
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Well, if they are seriously looking to fill thoes 5 deployments that the Miami is going to miss, they should just keep one of the boats already scheduled for retirement for one extra deployment (assuming they have the reactor fuel and are mechanically sounds enough for the job), then junk it. They could do this 5 times over a 10 year stretch. Realistically, I don't expect them to figure this out...Comment
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Well, when you figure out ships' scheduling, let me know. I was a victim of it for many years and never did figure out how it was done beyond some shaman throwing chicken bones or something.Originally posted by ChrisV71 View PostComment
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Story Number: NNS140325-10Release Date: 3/25/2014 11:53:00 AM A A A
From Submarine Group 2 Public Affairs
KITTERY, Maine (NNS) -- The Navy will formally decommission Los Angeles-class attack submarine USS Miami (SSN 755), March 28, during a 10 a.m. ceremony at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Kittery, Maine.
The time-honored ceremony will be held in the shipyard's main auditorium and attended by current crew members, their families and other invited guests. The event will mark the end of Miami's nearly 24 years of active service in the fleet.
The ship's first commanding officer, retired Capt. Thomas Mader, will be the keynote speaker. Rear Adm. Ken Perry, commander of Submarine Group 2, will be the guest speaker. Cmdr. Rolf Spelker, who assumed command of Miami on Nov. 15, is also scheduled to speak.
Miami is currently undergoing an inactivation process the Navy announced last fall. Her crew of 111 officers and enlisted personnel will all be reassigned to other units by December.
Miami was commissioned June 30, 1990 as the Navy's 44th Los Angeles-class submarine.
The 11 commanding officers and hundreds of Sailors who have manned the ship over the course of two decades carry forward her legacy of exceptional service.Comment
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By Lt. Timothy Hawkins, Submarine Group 2 Public Affairs
KITTERY, Maine (NNS) -- The Navy formally decommissioned Los Angeles-class attack submarine USS Miami (SSN 755), March 28, during an indoor ceremony at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Kittery, Maine.
Past and present crew members, their families and other invited guests attended the event.
"Admiral, the watch is secured," reported Miami's skipper Cmdr. Rolf Spelker to Submarine Group 2 commander Rear Adm. Ken Perry, marking the end of the ship's nearly 24-year journey.
"Every once in a while a ship earns a waterfront reputation as a 'hot boat.' Miami earned that reputation early and kept it going," said Perry, the guest speaker. "Miami's journey has been unprecedented and unique, and today we show our gratitude and pride."
Miami was commissioned June 30, 1990 as the Navy's 44th Los Angeles-class submarine and the fifth ship of the "improved" 688-class. She was built with an improved sonar and weapon control system, 12 vertical launch system tubes, and full under-ice capability - embodying the most modern design and construction of her time.
During more than a dozen deployments over the past two decades, Miami fully employed her capabilities while operating in maritime regions near North America, Europe, Africa and the Middle East.
Miami was America's first nuclear-powered submarine to transit the Suez Canal, an honor earned during her second deployment in 1994.
In the late 1990s, Miami launched Tomahawk cruise missile strikes during Operation Desert Fox in Iraq and Operation Allied Force in Kosovo. She earned the nickname "Big Gun" after becoming the first submarine since World War II to fire ordnance during combat operations in two different theaters.
Miami's first commanding officer, retired Capt. Thomas Mader, delivered the keynote address.
"As leaders, I believe we are judged for our response to the challenges we face, and our legacy is found in the state of readiness of the crew we leave behind," said Mader. "I couldn't be prouder of the officers, chiefs and leading petty officers that prepared Miami."
He also pointed out that many in Miami's plankowner wardroom went on to assume submarine command. Eight members achieved the rank of captain and two became flag officers.
Spelker later highlighted contributions by the ship's 11 commanding officers and hundreds of crewmen who operated Miami over the years.
"Miami redefined the possibilities of submarine warfare," said Spelker. "Miami will have a long and proud legacy."
Miami is currently undergoing an inactivation process the Navy announced last fall. Her crew of 111 officers and enlisted personnel will all be reassigned to other units by December.
Sixty-two Los Angeles-class attack submarines were constructed from the early 1970s to the mid-1990s. Forty-one are presently in active service.Comment
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