Hand to Hand combat... really?

[Mihais]

Training,any training is good.However in real H to H all the martial arts will consist on who can smash the opponent's head on a pavement faster,who will be able to land a blow to the neck,kidneys,knees,poke eyes and/or will grab a rock,helmet,bottle,stick etc... to turn the enemy's head into ketchup. Simple as that and every human animal can and will do that in a dire situation. Oh,and let's not forget the infantry spade.That is the incarnation of death.

[Deltacamelately]

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Now, I do not know of any in the Indo-Pak wars but would not be surprised to find out it happened.

Many. Starting from some of the battles fought since the 1965 war till Kargil. One of the most outstanding was the battle of Tololing, where in troops from the 2nd Rajputana Rifles, led by its Commanding Officer, Colonel M.B. Ravindranath recaptured the key ridge in the Drass Sector after a fierce, night-long hand-to-hand battle. One officer, two JCOs and seven Jawans KIA lay dead on a moonscape of tortured rock that often tilted at 80 degrees, mostly from the 18 Grenadiers, before his men captured the ridge.

"What Is The Spirit Of The Bayonet!??!?!"

Ammo.
Cover is a prayer and Ammo is a combination of Bayonet, Bare hands and Bravery.

[HKDan]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes the idea of a Marine Sgt. snatching a machine gun out of someones hands and beating them to death with it.

Afghanistan battles yield two Navy Crosses - Marine Corps News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Marine Corps Times

Two California-based Marines are scheduled to receive Navy Cross awards on Friday for their actions during separate battles in Afghanistan’s Helmand province.

The recipients are Sgt. Cliff Wooldridge of Twentynine Palms and Sgt. Christopher Farias of Camp Pendleton. The Navy Cross is the nation’s second-highest award for combat valor, below only the Medal of Honor.

Wooldridge, a member of 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines, is credited with fending off a Taliban ambush in close-quarters battle on June 18, 2010, in Musa Qala.

During the engagement, Wooldridge snatched a machine gun from the hands of an enemy fighter and, following a tense struggle on the ground, killed his opponent by striking him in the head with the weapon’s butt stock. The remaining Taliban then retreated, ending a potentially deadly ambush against Wooldridge’s platoon, according to an account of the battle provided to Marine Corps Times in late 2010.

Wooldridge is scheduled to receive his award from Navy Secretary Ray Mabus.

Farias, a member of 1st Battalion, 11th Marines, is credited with repelling a Taliban ambush Oct. 5, 2010, that threatened to overrun his unit’s patrol base in Helmand’s Kajaki district.

During the battle, Farias and several other Marines were severely wounded by explosive rounds fired from a recoilless rifle. Nevertheless, Farias pulled himself up, directed triage efforts and then called for suppressive machine gun fire, according to a news release from the 1st Marine Division, his unit’s parent command. His actions as an assistant squad leader allowed for the safe evacuation of his wounded comrades.

Farias is scheduled to be recognized by Navy Undersecretary Robert Work.

[USSWisconsin]

Mess with the Marines - you get the stock...

[Chogy]

Excellent exclamation point to this thread, thanks.

[sappersgt]

Up close and personal.

[bonehead]

Starship Troopers - disable hand - YouTube

The enemy can not push a button if you disable his hand.

[Gun Grape]

Don't mess with Marines at home either.

Prosecutors announced Friday they will not press charges against two Camp Lejeune Marines and a civilian fought for their lives and killed two local men who were burglarizing their Jacksonville home earlier this month.

Maurice Skinner, 33, of Banks Street, and Diego M. Everette, 33, of Graytown Road, were shot and killed by residents of 107 Country Club Drive around 2 a.m. on April

15.

District Attorney Ernie Lee refused to publicly identify the residents involved in the shooting.

He said it was clear from the evidence that the state’s Castle Doctrine, which allows for deadly force in defending one’s home, and selfdefense laws apply in the case.

“After investigation by the Jacksonville Police Department and reading the statements of the witnesses, it is clear that Everette’s and Skinner’s death were justified because of the actions of Everette and Skinner in burglarizing the residence and assaulting, robbing and threatening to kill the occupants of the residence,” Lee said.

Family of the decedents present during Friday’s press conference said they didn’t believe Lee’s version of events. Lee told them that whether they accepted it or not, Skinner and Everette’s deaths were justified under state laws.

Lee methodically recounted the events of April 15, referring to the decedents by name and calling the other three men involved the Marine resident, civilian roommate and Marine friend.

An ATM withdrawal, witnesses and GPS tracking placed the three men in the Emerald Isle area until they returned home at around 1:40 a.m. After entering the house, the Marine resident noticed his dogs acting strange and found the sliding glass doors leading to his backyard damaged with a pry mark on the frame and a broken latch on the doors.

Skinner came out of the bedroom area of the house carrying the Marine resident’s Mossberg Model 88 12-gauge shotgun, which had been under the Marine resident’s bed. Skinner shined a light in the Marine resident’s face and then struck him in the face with the butt of the shotgun.

Skinner ordered the Marine resident to get on the floor. Everette came out of one of the bedrooms and ordered the civilian roommate and Marine friend, who were coming down the hall, to also get on the floor.

Skinner demanded all of their cell phones and wallets. Everette took their wallets, but all three had set down their cell phones when they entered the house.

Skinner and Everette then told the three men they were going to kill them. Skinner placed the shotgun to their heads and told them he was going to shoot them. Skinner demanded duct tape and rope.

“Once the Marine resident realized that these men were going to tie them up, the Marine resident believed that he and his friends were going to be killed,” Lee said.

Skinner, who had four children, and Everett, who was the father of five, asked the Marines whether they had children. Skinner said he would not shoot anyone with children, but would shoot the ones who didn’t.

“The Marine resident saw Skinner look away momentarily and realized this was his chance to act,” Lee said. “The Marine resident grabbed for the shotgun. He and Skinner started struggling for it.”

The fight ended up in one of the bedrooms. Skinner called for help, and Everette came into the room and hit the Marine resident several times in the head and ear with a crowbar.

The Marine resident momentarily blacked out, came to and called for help. The Marine friend entered the bedroom and Everette attacked him with the crowbar. The Marine resident and Skinner were struggling on the floor.

“Skinner said, ‘You are going to die now’ and squeezed the trigger of the shotgun repeatedly,” Lee said. “The gun did not fire. Apparently, Skinner did not realize that while the Marine resident kept the shotgun loaded, he did not keep it ‘pumped’ and chambered.”

The Marine resident was able to wrestle the shotgun from Skinner’s grip. Skinner came at the Marine resident, who was on the floor, and the Marine resident shot Skinner twice in the torso.

The civilian roommate entered the room. The Marine resident shoved him out of the way and ran to the other side of the bed where his Marine friend and Everette were still struggling.

The Marine resident shot Everette in the buttocks with the slug exiting his stomach area. Everette turned around and, believing the intruder to still be a threat, the Marine resident shot him in the right armpit area.

Everette crawled toward an object beneath the bed. The Marine friend broke a wine bottle over Everette’s head and Everette stopped moving. Police found a flashlight under the bed.

The two Marines and civilian roommate had significant injuries and were transported to Onslow Memorial Hospital. The Marine resident had scratches and bruises on his chest and back. He had deep cuts on his chin, right ear and the back of his head. The civilian resident had cuts to the top of his head and stippling on his arm from the shotgun being fired near him. The Marine friend had a deep cut to the top of his head.

Crime scene investigators found blood on the steps of the carport, kitchen, dining room area, hallway and bedrooms. Skinner and Everette, who were dead when authorities arrived, were wearing gloves and dark clothing. They had a total of $161.55 in their possession.

Skinner and Everette have both served prison time, Skinner for assault and Everette for larceny and drugs, according to the N.C. Department of Correction.

The Marines and civilian roommate do not have criminal convictions.

JPD detectives David Brown and Richard Kellum learned of two separate motor vehicle break-ins committed the night of the incident at nearby houses on Country Club Drive. A phone from one of those two break-ins was recovered inside of the residence with Skinner and Everette. There was property from the vehicle break-ins recovered in bushes across the street from where the shooting occurred.

Detectives examined the cell phones of all five men and found no common numbers called between the decedents and the residents. No evidence has been found that links the two groups of men.

“These deaths, although tragic for the decedents’ families, are justified pursuant to the facts and circumstances of this investigation and the law of North Carolina,” Lee said.

Lee said he appreciated the hard work of the JPD and assistance by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.

JPD Chief Mike Yaniero said his detectives are still investigating how Skinner and Everette arrived in the County Club Drive area before their deaths, and criminal charges may apply. The chief said Crime Stoppers tips have aided the investigation.

[bonehead]

That should get as much national coverage as the Trevon/Zimmerman case.