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  • Shooting at Jewish School Leaves Rabbi, 3 Kids Dead in France

    Shooting at Jewish School Leaves Rabbi, 3 Kids Dead in France

    By CHRISTOPHE SCHPOLIANSKY and NICK SCHIFRIN | Good Morning America – 2 hours 11 minutes ago

    A shooter opened fire on a Jewish school in Toulouse, France, this morning just as students arrived, killing four, including a 30-year-old rabbi and his two children, officials said.

    The shooter, who arrived and fled from the Ozar Hatorah school on a scooter or a motorcycle, "shot at everything he could see," according to local prosecutor Michel Valet.

    The dead included Rabbi Jonathan Sandler, who taught at the school, his 3- and 6-year-old sons Gabriel and Arieh, and the school headmaster's 8-year-old daughter, according to the Israeli newspaper Ynet. Sandler, a French-Israeli national, had left Israel last September to begin a two year teaching stint at the school, according to the Le Parisien newspaper.

    A 17-year-old and two other students were seriously wounded.

    Authorities are investigating whether the shooting is linked to two other incidents where a shooter targeted his victims while driving a motorcycle in the same area.
    Last Sunday, a paratrooper out of uniform was killed by a gunman on a motorbike outside of a gym in a suburb of Toulouse.

    On Thursday, two soldiers were killed and a third wounded by a shooter on a
    scooter as they used an ATM in Montauban, about 30 miles away.

    The same caliber weapon – a .45 handgun, referred to in France as an 11.43 – was used in the shootings last week and this morning, police officials told local
    media.

    "It is too early to link the different shootings, but there are similarities between these shootings: same modus operandi, same area," French Interior Ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet told ABC News. "The shooter in all these cases was very determined."

    Witnesses of today's shooting described a horrific scene at the drop-off point for nursery- and primary-age students. The killer arrived with two weapons, and one jammed, according to AFP.

    "I saw two people dead in front of the school, an adult and a child ... It was a vision of horror, the bodies of two small children," a father whose child attends the school told RTL radio. "I did not find my son. Apparently he fled when he saw what happened. How can they attack something as sacred as a school?"

    "Just because we are different doesn't mean we should be killed," one student's father, in tears, told the local newspaper Sud Quest from outside the school.

    One student described how the shooting began just as she arrived for her morning prayers. "We were really afraid," she told Sud Quest. She said after police arrived, the children sat down, were given water, and prayed together.

    The killer arrived at the school carrying two weapons, including the same .45 caliber gun that killed one of the soldiers in Thursday's attack, according to the Toulouse-based La Depeche newspaper.

    Police say they have locked Toulouse down as they hunt for the killer, and the government tightened security at all religious sites in France, particularly Jewish schools. Sixty police officers, including anti-terrorist police, are helping with this investigation after they had already begun examining the attacks on the troops.

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who is running for re-election, immediately flew to Toulouse, which is about 425 miles south of Paris.

    "Whatever happens," he said, "faced with this kind of toll, we can say that the French Republic as a whole has been hit by this appalling tragedy."
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    They need to take this guy to a dark, dank place and spend some time killing him. I would think a couple years of slow killing was in order for a special case like this.
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    • #3
      Because the person is also suspected of shooting soldiers last week, there is a chance that this isn't JUST an anti-Semitic thing, but yes, this guy does need killing, and quick
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      • #4
        Originally posted by bigross86 View Post
        Because the person is also suspected of shooting soldiers last week, there is a chance that this isn't JUST an anti-Semitic thing, but yes, this guy does need killing, and quick
        100% agree, but its even money for right wing fascist or jihadist since its France. But it may be different actors or a madman as well. Killing soldiers implies and act of war by a revolutionary group, while shooting up a Jewish religious school implies Islamic or neo-nazi terrorism... I say this becuase of the Manson Family, they proved that sometimes the players on the field are from a different game entirely.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by zraver View Post
          Killing soldiers implies and act of war by a revolutionary group, while shooting up a Jewish religious school implies Islamic or neo-nazi terrorism...
          Two of the three dead soldiers were of visible North African descent, the third was a mulatto from Guadeloupe, the seriously wounded one was black. French authorities now consider the series to have a racist and anti-semitic background; up to the shooting at the Jewish school this detail was considered irrelevant, as the only thing connecting the victims was that they were soldiers.

          The security lock-down in and around Toulouse btw isn't limited to Jewish schools and sites, but Muslim schools, mosques etc are also getting more protection.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kato View Post
            Two of the three dead soldiers were of visible North African descent, the third was a mulatto from Guadeloupe, the seriously wounded one was black. French authorities now consider the series to have a racist and anti-semitic background; up to the shooting at the Jewish school this detail was considered irrelevant, as the only thing connecting the victims was that they were soldiers.

            The security lock-down in and around Toulouse btw isn't limited to Jewish schools and sites, but Muslim schools, mosques etc are also getting more protection.
            RW fascist then...

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            • #7
              Damned shame. My condolences to the families and friends of those lost and prayers for the quick recovery of the injured. May God have mercy on that miserable fcuk's soul because, were it I that caught him, there'd be none.
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              • #8
                Turns out its a Jihadist

                Killed children for justice...:puck:
                Suspect in School Shooting in France Expected to Surrender | Europe | English

                hope he is captured alive, then falls off the media radar very quickly...

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                • #9
                  At a stand off at the moment and negotiators will be hoping it ends with taking him into custody.

                  BBC News

                  "Mohammed Merah, the man believed to be the gunman on a scooter who killed seven people in south-western France, is a 24-year-old French citizen of Algerian extraction. Before the shootings in Toulouse and Montauban, he was known to the French authorities because he had a criminal record for non-terrorist crimes. According to the French authorities, he said he had sought to avenge Palestinian children and to attack the French army because of its foreign interventions".

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                  • #10
                    The BBC was pushing the Far Right extremist angle pretty hard for the past few days. Now that the suspected gunman has been identified, they have backed off from making any kinds of speculations.
                    "They want to test our feelings.They want to know whether Muslims are extremists or not. Death to them and their newspapers."

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                    • #11
                      Hope the French will capture him alive, without any more casualties and leave him alone in a dark room with the French version of Beria.
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                      • #12
                        This whole thing has just been terrible. First off duty soldiers, then children. Shocking, sad & awful.

                        Much like the Brevik murders, this event has embarrassed those who jumped to conclusions too quickly. The pattern was open to interpretation. My own betting was actually 50/50 muslim extremist/right wing extremist. Beyond the tragedy of the murders this is going to become nasty politics pretty quickly. France is in the middle of a particularly vicious election & this will rapidly become ammunition. More's the pity.

                        As for the suspect. If he is the man in question I would simply drop him off at the local military base & let them deal with him.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bigfella View Post
                          This whole thing has just been terrible. First off duty soldiers, then children. Shocking, sad & awful.

                          Much like the Brevik murders, this event has embarrassed those who jumped to conclusions too quickly. The pattern was open to interpretation. My own betting was actually 50/50 muslim extremist/right wing extremist. Beyond the tragedy of the murders this is going to become nasty politics pretty quickly. France is in the middle of a particularly vicious election & this will rapidly become ammunition. More's the pity.

                          As for the suspect. If he is the man in question I would simply drop him off at the local military base & let them deal with him.
                          It is sad that grieving families will now be dragged into the spotlight for photo ops with politicians who couldn't care less what they are going through, as long as they get that bump in the polls.
                          "They want to test our feelings.They want to know whether Muslims are extremists or not. Death to them and their newspapers."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bigfella View Post
                            Beyond the tragedy of the murders this is going to become nasty politics pretty quickly. France is in the middle of a particularly vicious election & this will rapidly become ammunition.
                            Some will be rubbing their hands with glee. Marine LePen, the daughter of Jean Marie LePen and likely the next leader of the National Front will as you say use this as ammo in all the forthcoming rallies and speeches.

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                            • #15
                              Le Pens candidacy - she didn't have the necessary support votes to even run until a week ago - will only hurt Sarkozy and result in Hollande becoming new president, which will result in the rest of Europe probably finally ridding itself of the conservative plague we've had in the offices the last couple years. Rejoice!

                              Marine le Pen already is the leader of FN btw. Her father is only honorary chairman.

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