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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostWell, I can recall reading about the Iowa under Capt Smedberg during machinery trials tearing around Alcatraz Island (San Fransico Bay) and the Golden Gate Bridge twice with all of the fast moving currents at 20+knots.
Captain Smedberg had apparently been ordered to do the trials in the Bay, over his protests.
Unbeknownst to him, watching was Chester Nimitz, who called him afterwards and admonished him for handling such large and valuable warship in such confined and dangerous waters.
Smedberg replied that he'd been ordered to do so, but Nimitz countered that he should've refused the order.“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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One further about handling in the harbor (not scifi) Consider Nevada got underway under "hot iron" her boilers warmed up. Two shafts with less then 1/4 of the Iowas SHP and approx 6' less draft at full displacement. 1 rudder. The Iowas, 4 shafts, 4 times the SHP, 2 massive rudders, deeper in draft and longer but by far move manuverable. There are several images of the Pearl Harbor BB's together during drills, in very close proximity.
An area alot smaller then Pearl Harbor.
And from what is told the Iowas at full displacement (before retirement) would have 5'-0" and sometimes less in most US ports they visited, New York, Philly etc.
*TH, he followed his orders but I bet he did so with a BIG smile.Last edited by Dreadnought; 26 Oct 12,, 22:49.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View Post*TH, he followed his orders but I bet he did so with a BIG smile.
Probably because we could very well be talking about Smedberg in the same way we talk about William D. Brown.“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostOne further about handling in the harbor (not scifi) Consider Nevada got underway under "hot iron" her boilers warmed up. Two shafts with less then 1/4 of the Iowas SHP and approx 6' less draft at full displacement. 1 rudder. The Iowas, 4 shafts, 4 times the SHP, 2 massive rudders, deeper in draft and longer but by far move manuverable. There are several images of the Pearl Harbor BB's together during drills, in very close proximity.
An area alot smaller then Pearl Harbor.
And from what is told the Iowas at full displacement (before retirement) would have 5'-0" and sometimes less in most US ports they visited, New York, Philly etc.
*TH, he followed his orders but I bet he did so with a BIG smile.sigpic"If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees.
If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children."
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Originally posted by TopHatter View PostDunno about that...he protested the orders to begin with and was probably scared out of his mind the entire time. :red:
Probably because we could very well be talking about Smedberg in the same way we talk about William D. Brown.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by USSWisconsin View PostFlank speed for USS Nevada would have been around 19 knots by late 1941, and she had a little less than 25,000 SHP about a tenth of what an Iowa might make with emergency overload - Iowa might even have pulled that off (with hot boilers).Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostYeah, I had to look at that again, I have Nevada at approx 26,500 SHP since she had geared turbines instead of the reciprocating machinery that Oklahoma had at the time and 12 of the smaller Yarrow boilers. She also ran heavy bunker "c" fuel unlike the 80's upgraded Iowas running distiliate fuels. Faster response times and less heating time on the machinery.sigpic"If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees.
If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children."
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The Nevada's entire SHP output is just about 1/2 the SHP on one screw of the Iowas which are 53,000 shp each.Last edited by Dreadnought; 27 Oct 12,, 22:02.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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My two favorite parts: lighting the boilers and watching the bow of the Mo crash into the waves.
During my visits to the USS North Carolina, I often sat on the bridge, looking at both forward turrets, imagining what it would have looked like from there to be haze gray and underway. The size of those ships never ceases to amaze me.
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