Terror or stress, the attack on Ft Hood.

[tankie]

This wasn't a hate crime, or a terrorist incident. He was just having a bad day, and didn't know where to turn...Unless you read the jihadist sites, where he is a hero.

post a link please

[Versus]

May the dead rest in peace.

[Traxus]

I just don't understand why someone who "hates" his work and shoots up the place wouldn't be covered under "hate" crime.

You're likely just being facetious, but do you have any idea of what a "hate crime" actually is?

n.

A crime motivated by prejudice against a social group

[Kasmir]

Why do you think that is? What makes them dangerous? Is it because they are Americans? Is it because they have guns? Or is it because they are in Afghanistan? Please elaborate.

There's an ongoing war vs the Al Qaeda jihadist's Taliban affiliate being fought every day in Afghanistan (my son is an infantryman with the 1-17th IN BN outside of Kandahar and they're seeing serious action nearly every day). As after 9/11, vengeance for this attack will be delivered by the military against the Taliban and Al Qaeda in AfPak, not by vigilantes vs innocent Muslim-Americans in the US.

My earlier remark about the Afghan Police was referring to the infiltrator who killed the British soldiers in Afghanistan last week. A structurally similar incident, actually, except for the geography.

[Officer of Engineers]

God Bless the Fallen.

Present Arms.

The nightmare that awaits this bastard would make Iraq and Afghanistan paradise by comparison.

[zraver]

God Bless the Fallen.

Present Arms.

The nightmare that awaits this bastard would make Iraq and Afghanistan paradise by comparison.

Hopefully a nightmare 35-40 years long spent in a federal supermax never again to know the comfort of the human touch, to breathe free air, develop his talents or pursue his goals. He took 13 lives and I hope we take his from him 1 day at a time. This way he doesn't even had an execution date to look forward to to end his confinement.

[citanon]

RIP to the fallen.

Unfortunately at least one person in the media has tried to use this bastard's conduct to cast doubt on our military.

I won't post the full text here as it's a shameful, stupid, disgusting piece of yellow journalism.

Posted Friday, November 06, 2009 8:30 AM
Is Fort Hood a Harbinger? Nidal Malik Hasan May Be a Symptom of a Military on the Brink.
Andrew Bast

Vile crap follows.....

[silentsam]

post a link please

How about this? Unfortunately, it was edited afterwards by a mod:

mujahid_moonsighter
Junior Member
Muslim Male
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Riyadh, Saudia Arabia

Re: As many as 9 killed in Fort Hood shootings, officials say
reports now are saying that the shooter was a convert(revert) to Islam, a Major(officer) in the army

Allahu akbar insha Allah he be shaheed, what a brave mujahid

islamicawakening

[AdvanXer]

The victims of the Fort Hood attack

Fort victims had different reasons for enlisting - Yahoo! News


The 13 people killed when an Army psychiatrist allegedly opened fire on fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas, included a pregnant woman who was preparing to return home, a man who quit a furniture company job to join the military about a year ago, a newlywed who had served in Iraq and a woman who had vowed to take on Osama bin Laden after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Here is a look at some of the victims.

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Francheska Velez

Velez, 21, of Chicago, was pregnant and preparing to return home. A friend of Velez's, Sasha Ramos, described her as a fun-loving person who wrote poetry and loved dancing.

"She was like my sister," Ramos, 21, said. "She was the most fun and happy person you could know. She never did anything wrong to anybody."

Family members said Velez had recently returned from deployment in Iraq and had sought a lifelong career in the Army.

"She was a very happy girl and sweet," said her father, Juan Guillermo Velez, his eyes red from crying. "She had the spirit of a child."

Ramos, who also served briefly in the military, couldn't reconcile that her friend was killed in this country — just after leaving a war zone.

"It makes it a lot harder," she said. "This is not something a soldier expects — to have someone in our uniform go start shooting at us."

___

Pfc. Aaron Thomas Nemelka

Nemelka, 19, of the Salt Lake City suburb of West Jordan, Utah, chose to join the Army instead of going on a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, his uncle Christopher Nemelka said.

"As a person, Aaron was as soft and kind and as gentle as they come, a sweetheart," his uncle said. "What I loved about the kid was his independence of thought."

Aaron Nemelka, the youngest of four children, was scheduled to be deployed to Afghanistan in January, his family said in a statement. Nemelka had enlisted in the Army in October 2008, Utah National Guard Lt. Col. Lisa Olsen said.

___

Pfc. Michael Pearson

Pearson, 21, of the Chicago suburb of Bolingbrook, Ill., quit what he figured was a dead-end furniture company job to join the military about a year ago.

"He felt he was in a rut. He wanted to travel, see the world," his mother, Sheryll Pearson, told the Chicago Tribune. "He also wanted an opportunity to serve the country."

At Pearson's family home Friday, a yellow ribbon was tied to a porch light and a sticker stamped with American flags on the front door read, "United we stand."

Neighbor Jessica Koerber, who was with Pearson's parents when they received word Thursday their son had died, described him as a man who clearly loved his family — someone who enjoyed horsing around with his nieces and nephews, and other times playing his guitar.

"That family lost their gem," she told the AP. "He was a great kid, a great guy. ... Mikey was one of a kind."

Sheryll Pearson said she hadn't seen her son for a year because he had been training. She told the Tribune that when she last talked to him on the phone two days ago, they had discussed how he would come home for Christmas.

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Spc. Jason Dean Hunt

Hunt, 22, of Frederick, Okla., went into the military after graduating from Tipton High School in 2005 and had gotten married just two months ago, his mother, Gale Hunt, said. He had served 3 1/2 years in the Army, including a stint in Iraq.

Gale Hunt said two uniformed soldiers came to her door late Thursday night to notify her of her son's death.

Hunt, known as J.D., was "just kind of a quiet boy and a good kid, very kind," said Kathy Gray, an administrative assistant at Tipton Schools.

His mother said he was family oriented.

"He didn't go in for hunting or sports," Gale Hunt said. "He was a very quiet boy who enjoyed video games."

He had re-enlisted for six years after serving his initial two-year assignment, she said. Jason Hunt was previously stationed at Fort Stewart in Georgia.

___

Sgt. Amy Krueger

Krueger, 29, of Kiel, Wis., joined the Army after the 2001 terrorist attacks and had vowed to take on Osama bin Laden, her mother, Jeri Krueger said.

Amy Krueger arrived at Fort Hood on Tuesday and was scheduled to be sent to Afghanistan in December, the mother told the Herald Times Reporter of Manitowoc.

Jeri Krueger recalled telling her daughter that she could not take on bin Laden by herself.

"Watch me," her daughter replied.

Kiel High School Principal Dario Talerico told The Associated Press that Krueger graduated from the school in 1998 and had spoken at least once to local elementary school students about her career.

"I just remember that Amy was a very good kid, who like most kids in a small town are just looking for what their next step in life was going to be and she chose the military," Talerico said. "Once she got into the military, she really connected with that kind of lifestyle and was really proud to serve her country."

I really hope this poor excuse of a human being makes it through so he can face what he has done to these families. Truly sickening.

[gunnut]

You're likely just being facetious, but do you have any idea of what a "hate crime" actually is?

n.

A crime motivated by prejudice against a social group

Work is not a social group?

[crooks]

My prayers for the deceased, and condolences to the family.

Ar ndeis dia go raimh a t-anaimi.

[S2]

Zraver Reply

"...I hope we take his from him 1 day at a time. This way he doesn't even had an execution date to look forward to to end his confinement."

Concur.

[InExile]

Given the motivations of this person of religious fanaticism and hatred of his own country; we can count this as a terrorist attack; as opposed to another shootout.

I don't agree with those who say that Islam has nothing to do with things like this; or these evil twisted psychos would do the same thing for another reason if not Islam. It is the teachings of Islam that allow such hate and vileness to be justified to the perpetrators, to allow such people and their sympathizers to think of themselves as martyrs or heroes. Ofcourse, I am sure most passages in the Koran are benevolent and these people are only a minority of Muslims, but given more than a billion Muslims out there, even a microscropic minority can mean tens of thousands of potential terrorists.

It would be wrong ofcourse to generalize or target an entire group of people this way, and I dont hold ordinary Muslims responsible for the acts of a few of their brethren. However, I do wish they wouldn't dismiss these acts by saying things like 'These people are not true Muslims anyway since Islam is a religion of peace'. They need to look at their faith closely; and understand that something is seriously wrong when thousands of people can justify such horrific violence in the name of their religion.

[Bigfella]

Fort victims had different reasons for enlisting - Yahoo! News


The 13 people killed when an Army psychiatrist allegedly opened fire on fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas, included a pregnant woman who was preparing to return home, a man who quit a furniture company job to join the military about a year ago, a newlywed who had served in Iraq and a woman who had vowed to take on Osama bin Laden after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Here is a look at some of the victims.

Thanks AdvanXer,

It is the nature of these things that we spend far too much time talking about the perpetrator. The people we should really be remembering are the victims. They are the ones who gave their 'last measure of devotion'.

[Bigfella]

No, Islam was a convenient self excuse for a guy who was mad because he got a bad review. Just like Waco was just an excuse for Tim McVeigh, or "rape" as an excuse for A lynch mob. The actors already had murder in their hearts and wanted an excuse. Jumping to conclusions about him being a sleeper with no evidence of and evidence of other motivations existing is unfair to the loyal, hardworking and peaceful Americans who happen to pray to Allah not YAHWEH or Christ.

Its looking that way Z, but I'm not sure it will play that way in the media.