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  • Ak-47 bankruptcy?

    Just found this on the AOL news. Thought I'd pass it on so you folks have something to chatter about. If you want to that is.


    Izhmash Arms Factory, the sole licensed manufacturers of the famous AK-47 assault rifle, may be facing bankruptcy. Andrei Markin, a businessman in the company's home city of Izhevsk, has filed suit to declare the company bankrupt because of outstanding debts totaling approximately $265,000. While the manufacturer states that its order books are full and that Markin's suit is bogus, there is little doubt that Izhmash -- and the Russian arms industry -- have fallen on hard times.

    Between 2007 and 2008, the Russian arms industry experienced a 72 percent drop in sales. Although the country is still a world leader in the firearms industry, it is ceding an ever-increasing market share to China, which has demonstrated an impressive ability to reverse-engineer military technology. Currently, Russia is caught between two tough choices: it can either accept a smaller market share, or can make increasingly complex weapons systems available to China. If it follows the latter path, it will do so in the full knowledge that China will continue its reverse-engineering process, stealing an ever-increasing portion of Russia's sales.

    The other half of the problem lies in Russia's shift from communism to capitalism. Under the old system, it was in the country's best interests to encourage foreign manufacture of the weapons, and the aggressiveness with which they did so transformed the AK-47 into the world's most popular assault rifle. While arguably less recognizable as the Israeli Uzi or the American M16, the AK-47 is far more common; in fact, some experts estimate that up to 80 percent of all assault rifles are AK-47s.
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    Arguably less recognizable?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by leib10 View Post
      Arguably less recognizable?
      Yeah, I saw that too. But I didn't write the article. Just copied and pasted most of it off of AOL. Whoever wrote it obviously doesn't really know that much about guns.
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      • #4
        Honestly lots and lots of people have a hard time telling apart an ak47 akm ak74.

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        • #5
          Just as many people would have just as much trouble telling apart an M16A1, an M16A4 and an AR15 though
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          • #6
            Originally posted by RustyBattleship View Post
            While arguably less recognizable as the Israeli Uzi or the American M16, the AK-47 is far more common; in fact, some experts estimate that up to 80 percent of all assault rifles are AK-47s.
            Originally posted by RustyBattleship View Post
            Whoever wrote it obviously doesn't really know that much about guns.
            I'll definitely agree with you Rusty. That last line of the article was about a dumb a statement as any. Esp since the AK is the oldest of all of them and there is times more AKs produced than the other two combined!;)

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            • #7
              ^ +1

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              • #8
                That may be so, but the AR is easier to transform into a tacticool rifle. :))
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RustyBattleship View Post
                  Under the old system, it was in the country's best interests to encourage foreign manufacture of the weapons,
                  This is what happens when you let go of your IPR, I guess
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gunnut View Post
                    That may be so, but the AR is easier to transform into a tacticool rifle. :))
                    Not necessarily true...

                    Have you seen that guy NUTNFANCY's side by side comparison of the AR and the AK?

                    Not commenting on the discussion itself; but there were a few rather tacticool AK's there, decked out cool scopes and whatnot
                    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Maxor View Post
                      Honestly lots and lots of people have a hard time telling apart an ak47 akm ak74.
                      Fewer still the difference between an R4 and an AK-74. Did you see District 9?.
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                      • #12
                        The author of the article did not mention differense in variations of certain weapons. He merely mentioned the names as being visually close in appearance.


                        Don't quite know what is so astoundingly similar about the three guns. Especially the one in the middle.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RustyBattleship View Post
                          The author of the article did not mention differense in variations of certain weapons. He merely mentioned the names as being visually close in appearance.


                          Don't quite know what is so astoundingly similar about the three guns. Especially the one in the middle.
                          The movies they were in??????

                          And bonus points to someone that can tell me whats special about the AK in the above pic.
                          Last edited by Blue; 06 Oct 09,, 04:16.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RustyBattleship View Post
                            Yeah, I saw that too. But I didn't write the article. Just copied and pasted most of it off of AOL. Whoever wrote it obviously doesn't really know that much about guns.
                            Haha I know. ;)

                            Still pretty nuts though. Looks like the manufacture of AK's under license screwed them in the end.
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                            • #15
                              Can't get any of those three in Australia anyway. :(

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