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"Scots Sniper Kills Taliban Leader With Longest Shot"- Daily Express
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Originally posted by Equilibrium View PostI don't understand why the media would publicize the soldier's name, considering the sensitive nature of his duty, but bravo to his skill and accomplishment!
Daily Express | UK News :: Scots sniper kills Taliban leader with longest shotsigpic
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In reference to publishing the soldier's name:
A soldier in Afghanistan doesn't ever walk around the streets by himself, he doesn't ever go around Afghanistan by himself. Therefore, even if he is a media success story, if the Taliban wanted to kill or capture him specifically, they would have to kill his entire platoon that is on patrol with him and the grab him. It won't happen. Also, just knowing a soldier's name doesn't tell them what platoon he is specifically, so in this case they would really only know he is in Black Watch, not what company or platoon.
Now, it is true that the Taliban want to capture Coalition Forces bodies and use them for propaganda, but they don't care whose body they get, just so long as it is preferably American. Now, for my deployment to Afghanistan I went to the very contentious Konar province. If the British do conduct patrols in ones or two (which I doubt) in other parts of the country let me know if you have experience in Afghanistan. I have a feeling though that they do not.
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Originally posted by Michael C View PostIn reference to publishing the soldier's name:
A soldier in Afghanistan doesn't ever walk around the streets by himself, he doesn't ever go around Afghanistan by himself. Therefore, even if he is a media success story, if the Taliban wanted to kill or capture him specifically, they would have to kill his entire platoon that is on patrol with him and the grab him. It won't happen. Also, just knowing a soldier's name doesn't tell them what platoon he is specifically, so in this case they would really only know he is in Black Watch, not what company or platoon.
Now, it is true that the Taliban want to capture Coalition Forces bodies and use them for propaganda, but they don't care whose body they get, just so long as it is preferably American. Now, for my deployment to Afghanistan I went to the very contentious Konar province. If the British do conduct patrols in ones or two (which I doubt) in other parts of the country let me know if you have experience in Afghanistan. I have a feeling though that they do not."There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge
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The smallest Infantry 'Set-Up' is the Section, which is made up of eight men, Commanded by a Corporal with a Lance Corporal as 2i/c, they are broken down into 2 four man 'Fire Teams', each 'Fire Team' has the following: 'Fire Team 1 - Corporal with an SA80A2, Rifleman with an LSW, Rifleman with an SA80 with an Underslung Grenade Launcher, and a Rifleman with a Minimi LMG, the other fire group has the same weapons. You will also find that each soldier will be carrying LAW, Smoke and HE Grenades. There are 3 Sections to a Platoon. I believe the smallest group used in the Stan would be Company size, then you would have Heavy Machine Guns, Snipers etc.. Bear in mind that they will also have 'Jackal' in support along with CVR(T), Mastiffs etc. Also they will have Arty on Call, Air Assets and Mortar.
Also not all the people within the 'Black Watch' Battle Group would be from the 'Black Watch', Regiments and Battalions are always augmented by people from other Regiments/Battalions.
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Thanks
Chaobam,
I am completely familiar with US weapons and set ups, the main issue I am unfamiliar with is how British forces actually leave the wire. From what you say, a two section group, then it is completely moot whether or not the Taliban know this kid's name, how will they target him any different? They would still have to attack a whole platoon of British soldiers. If they could do that , why not do it anyways? Knowing his name is inconsequential.
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Originally posted by Stitch View PostI believe you are correct; nobody goes out on patrol in Afghanistan (or Iraq, for that matter) at less than platoon strength (not to mention all of the back-up forces they have available).
In fact, evidence from Iraq where a 4 man and 6 man USMC sniper teams were wiped out seems to suggest, fewer men is in fact better when your dealing with this kind of stealthy mission.
U.S. snipers less effective than hoped in Iraq war | Deseret News (Salt Lake City) | Find Articles at BNET
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I wholeheartedly agree that an incredibly useful tactic in counter-guerilla operations is using small scout/sniper teams to eliminate HVTs (the Taliban commander you mention below). Having said that, knowing the path and walking the path for our forces in Afghanistan is a different story. Many AOs have restrictions on how many people have to be in a patrol before it can leave the wire that essentially make small dismounted patrols impossible. I could give specific details but it would violate operational security and the Taliban don't need to know.
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Michael,
If there is one thing I frown upon here is even a hint of OPSEC violations. In fact, I want no real time info regardless if it's open source or not. If we can figure out what's going on, so can the bad guys.
Please use after-the-fact info for anything you might want to present your case with.
Thank you.
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