United Europe vs. Russia

[Bill]

What about him?

Is this your idea of a useful contribution?

LOL

[Prosto ILya]

What about him?

He is a famous writer, creator of Discword.
On this Discword proudly stands Ank-Morpork – most dirty and villain town in all Universe.
And people Ank-Morpork have a very good saying for all ‘fellows-with-curiosity’ – “Curiosity killed a cat. Than skinned it and throw what remains into Ank.”

Is this your idea of a useful contribution?

/Зевает/

[dalem]

Dalem,

Even the Chinese Armed forces is said to be an archeological wonder they say. I somehow cannot get myself to agree.

I had seen in a WWII scrapbook cartoons (just before Pearl Harbour) of Japanese as nearsighted, bowlegged, bucktooth yahoos. Yet, these chaps from a small island that has no strategic resources worth the name, made the world jump. How come?

The Japanese built a first class navy and air force but their army and overall doctrine were quite primitive. They were able to make thw world "jump", as you say, because they got ready to attack and attacked first. Much like the Germans. If I sneak up on a guy and whack him in the head with a sockful of pennies, it doesn't make me tough - it makes him unconscious. But woe betide me if he wakes up and is bigger than me, yes?

The bottomline is - don't underestimate any adversary or potential adversary no matter how much you dislike him. Drop your guard and you are surprised!

I agree completely. If I were a military professional I would be much more cautious, and I expect my military professionals to be much more cautious. The fun part is - I don't have to be because I am an informed layman - my opinions, as long as I state them clearly as such, have effectively zero impact on anything important.

Given the newsreport, I would have been very chary of using Russian equipment. Honestly speaking whatever I have used, from the efficieincy point of view, I must say they were first class. Looks? As good as the headscarf wearing rather robust women of Russia as one sees in the photos. Comfort in use? Very simple to operate. Maintainence? Hey I forgot that they should also be maintained. OK, I will now go and give it a love and care treatment.

Again, I mainly agree that the simple stuff works, and robustness and reliability are important factors. But ships and subs are not simple. :)

The bottomline is - don't underestimate any adversary or potential adversary no matter how much you dislike him. Drop your guard and you are surprised!

Agreed.

-dale

[EPA]

An interesting article on Russian navy's future:
Survey of Russian Naval Forces

now how do you find links like that. most of my theories are based on bits and pieces i picked up in News paper articals and on TV

[Confed999]

now how do you find links like that.

Google is a good starting place. ;)

[Fury]

"It's pretty common knowledge that the Russian navy is in very, very bad shape currently."

No kidding :) last time I checked the russian navy has like 40 Tu-22 backfires and maybe just maybe half of those are airworthy. As for their ground force most of the equipment used is far from the 70's and troop training methods are straight from hell.
I wouldn't be surprised if russian army still has politruks to push their troops forward at all costs yelling "not one step backwards, traitors will be shot"

[Prosto ILya]

I wouldn't be surprised if russian army still has politruks

We have them. Specially trained to fight against main Finland weapon - war polar bear Yallo Pukinnen .

[Fury]

"war polar bear Yallo Pukinnen ."

;) I'd like too see those polar bears too, and who/what is Yallo Pukinnen

[Prosto ILya]

I'd like too see those polar bears too,

You can not! This is Top Secret. Special polar bears trained to stop enemy aircrafts.

and who/what is Yallo Pukinnen

Bears's nickname. His real name is Micko Hackinen.
Or something like that...

[Fury]

"You can not! This is Top Secret. Special polar bears trained to stop enemy aircrafts."

Really! whatever drugs you have taken this morning, I want some too

[Prosto ILya]

Really! whatever drugs you have taken this morning, I want some too

Try some fresh air and 12 km sprinter running!
Best drug ever.

[lwarmonger]

Try some fresh air and 12 km sprinter running!
Best drug ever.

Indeed!

[EPA]

He is a famous writer, creator of Discword.
On this Discword proudly stands Ank-Morpork – most dirty and villain town in all Universe.
And people Ank-Morpork have a very good saying for all ‘fellows-with-curiosity’ – “Curiosity killed a cat. Than skinned it and throw what remains into Ank.”




/Зевает/

how do you get a cyrillic font that says Zyvayt or Zevaet

[Prosto ILya]

Russian keyboard.
And ,i guess, it's more like "Zevayet"

[EPA]

"It's pretty common knowledge that the Russian navy is in very, very bad shape currently."

No kidding :) last time I checked the russian navy has like 40 Tu-22 backfires and maybe just maybe half of those are airworthy. As for their ground force most of the equipment used is far from the 70's and troop training methods are straight from hell.
I wouldn't be surprised if russian army still has politruks to push their troops forward at all costs yelling "not one step backwards, traitors will be shot"

The Russian navy could'nt withstand 10 confused old men with gun boats. While there are no complaints about Euro pean navies. How do you get information on navies i always get outdated or other garbadge.