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  • #61
    Well, here's a man that is as real as they get, and one hell of a warrior in his own right.

    The description below is truly the stuff of legend.

    Congressional Medal of Honor Citation, DONLON, ROGER HUGH C.

    Rank and organization: Captain, U.S. Army. Place and date: Near Nam Dong, Republic of Vietnam, 6 July 1964. Entered service at: Fort Chaffee, Ark. Born: 30 January 1934, Saugerties, N.Y. G.O. No.: 41, 17 December 1964. Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while defending a U.S. military installation against a fierce attack by hostile forces.

    Capt. Donlon was serving as the commanding officer of the U.S. Army Special Forces Detachment A-726 at Camp Nam Dong when a reinforced Viet Cong battalion suddenly launched a full-scale, predawn attack on the camp. During the violent battle that ensued, lasting 5 hours and resulting in heavy casualties on both sides, Capt. Donlon directed the defense operations in the midst of an enemy barrage of mortar shells, falling grenades, and extremely heavy gunfire. Upon the initial onslaught, he swiftly marshaled his forces and ordered the removal of the needed ammunition from a blazing building. He then dashed through a hail of small arms and exploding hand grenades to abort a breach of the main gate. En route to this position he detected an enemy demolition team of 3 in the proximity of the main gate and quickly annihilated them. Although exposed to the intense grenade attack, he then succeeded in reaching a 60mm mortar position despite sustaining a severe stomach wound as he was within 5 yards of the gun pit. When he discovered that most of the men in this gunpit were also wounded, he completely disregarded his own injury, directed their withdrawal to a location 30 meters away, and again risked his life by remaining behind and covering the movement with the utmost effectiveness. Noticing that his team sergeant was unable to evacuate the gun pit he crawled toward him and, while dragging the fallen soldier out of the gunpit, an enemy mortar exploded and inflicted a wound in Capt. Donlon's left shoulder. Although suffering from multiple wounds, he carried the abandoned 60mm mortar weapon to a new location 30 meters away where he found 3 wounded defenders. After administering first aid and encouragement to these men, he left the weapon with them, headed toward another position, and retrieved a 57mm recoilless rifle. Then with great courage and coolness under fire, he returned to the abandoned gun pit, evacuated ammunition for the 2 weapons, and while crawling and dragging the urgently needed ammunition, received a third wound on his leg by an enemy hand grenade. Despite his critical physical condition, he again crawled 175 meters to an 81mm mortar position and directed firing operations which protected the seriously threatened east sector of the camp. He then moved to an eastern 60mm mortar position and upon determining that the vicious enemy assault had weakened, crawled back to the gun pit with the 60mm mortar, set it up for defensive operations, and turned it over to 2 defenders with minor wounds. Without hesitation, he left this sheltered position, and moved from position to position around the beleaguered perimeter while hurling hand grenades at the enemy and inspiring his men to superhuman effort. As he bravely continued to move around the perimeter, a mortar shell exploded, wounding him in the face and body. As the long awaited daylight brought defeat to the enemy forces and their retreat back to the jungle leaving behind 54 of their dead, many weapons, and grenades, Capt. Donlon immediately reorganized his defenses and administered first aid to the wounded. His dynamic leadership, fortitude, and valiant efforts inspired not only the American personnel but the friendly Vietnamese defenders as well and resulted in the successful defense of the camp. Capt. Donlon's extraordinary heroism, at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty are in the highest traditions of the U.S. Army and reflect great credit upon himself and the Armed Forces of his country.

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    • #62
      I am wondering, can they give the Congressional of Honor Citation to a dead person?
      Remember, the enemy gate is down- Andrew šEnderš Wiggin

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      • #63
        Originally posted by M21Sniper
        Well, here's a man that is as real as they get, and one hell of a warrior in his own right.

        The description below is truly the stuff of legend.

        Congressional Medal of Honor Citation, DONLON, ROGER HUGH C.
        Good choice...
        No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
        I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
        even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
        He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Jonathan Locke
          I am wondering, can they give the Congressional of Honor Citation to a dead person?
          Most are...
          No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
          I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
          even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
          He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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          • #65
            I mean can they give it to someone that died on battle??????????
            Remember, the enemy gate is down- Andrew šEnderš Wiggin

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jonathan Locke
              I mean can they give it to someone that died on battle??????????
              Yes, most Congressional Medals of Honor are given posthumously, or after death.
              Congressional Medal of Honor Society
              No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
              I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
              even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
              He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Jonathan Locke
                I mean can they give it to someone that died on battle??????????

                The bravest ones are the ones who sacrificed their life to save another. Of course they can.
                "Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…" -- Thomas Paine

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                • #68
                  Although DONLON, ROGER HUGH C. showed a great degree of toughness remaining heroic in the face of fire and extreme pain from worunds he is only another in a line of American heroes I think the man below is perhaps the greatest warrior of all time:

                  MURPHY, AUDIE L.

                  Rank and organization: Second Lieutenant, U.S. Army, Company B 1 5th Infantry, 3d Infantry Division. Place and date: Near Holtzwihr France, 26 January 1945. Entered service at: Dallas, Tex. Birth: Hunt County, near Kingston, Tex. G.O. No.. 65, 9 August 1945. Citation 2d Lt. Murphy commanded Company B, which was attacked by 6 tanks and waves of infantry. 2d Lt. Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to prepared positions in a woods, while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him, to his right, 1 of our tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew to the woods. 2d Lt. Murphy continued to direct artillery fire which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, 2d Lt. Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its .50 caliber machinegun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to German fire from 3 sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminate 2d Lt. Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad which was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards, only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound, but ignored it and continued the single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted. He then made his way to his company, refused medical attention, and organized the company in a counterattack which forced the Germans to withdraw. His directing of artillery fire wiped out many of the enemy; he killed or wounded about 50. 2d Lt. Murphy's indomitable courage and his refusal to give an inch of ground saved his company from possible encirclement and destruction, and enabled it to hold the woods which had been the enemy's objective.

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                  • #69
                    Here's my vote..

                    Charles Upham
                    VICTORIA CROSS AND BAR



                    Acknowledged widely as the outstanding soldier of the Second World War, Captain Charles Upham is the only combatant soldier to receive the Victoria Cross and Bar (awarded to members of the armed forces of the Commonwealth for exceptional bravery). In Crete in May 1941 and the Western Desert in July 1942 Upham distinguished himself with displays of ‘nerveless competence’.
                    Born in Christchurch, New Zealand, in 1908 Upham was educated at Christ’s College and Canterbury Agricultural College at Lincoln. Prior to the war he was a farm manager and then farm valuer before enlisting in the Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force (aged 30) in 1939, quietly citing his reason as a desire to fight for justice.

                    Courage and Resource
                    He was renowned for combining controlled courage with quick-thinking resourcefulness. While most medals for bravery are awarded for a single act, Upham’s first citation was for nine days of skill, leadership and evident heroism. In March 1941, he was a Second Lieutenant in the 20th NZ Battalion in Crete. His display of courage included destroying numerous enemy posts, rescuing a wounded man under fire and penetrating deep behind German lines, killing twenty-two German soldiers on the way to leading out an isolated platoon – all after being blown over by a mortar shell, painfully wounded in the shoulder by shrapnel and with a bullet in his foot.

                    The incident that typified Upham’s deeds was when two German soldiers trapped him alone on the fringes of an olive grove. Upham (on his way to warning other troops that they were being cut off) was watched by his platoon, a helpless distance away on the other side of the clearing, as he was fired on by the German soldiers. With any movement potentially fatal, he feigned dead and with calculated coolness waited for the enemy soldiers to approach. With one arm lame in a sling, he used the crook of a tree to support his rifle and shoot the first assailant, reload with one hand, and shoot the second who was so close as to fall against the barrel of Upham’s rifle.

                    Gallantry and Determination
                    Captain Upham's second citation was for his part in the July 1942 attack on Ruweisat Ridge, Egypt, where the New Zealand Division was stranded when promised armoured support never came through. As the Allied forces struggled to hold the line, Upham led his company on what was described as a savage attack on German and Italian strongpoints. Upham himself was responsible for destroying a German tank and several guns and vehicles with hand grenades and, though he was shot through the elbow with a machine gun bullet and had his arm shattered, he went on again to a forward position and brought back some of his men who had become isolated.
                    He was removed to the regimental aid post, but immediately after his wounds had been dressed he returned to his men. He consolidated and held his position and despite exhaustion, loss of blood and further injuries (as a result of artillery and mortar fire that decimated most of his company) he stayed with the only six remaining members until, now unable to move, he was eventually overrun by the superior weight of the enemy forces and captured.


                    Typifying his character and nickname ‘Pug’, he attempted to escape numerous times before being branded "dangerous" by the Germans and incarcerated in the infamous prison fortress Colditz.


                    On May 11 1945 King George VI pinned an official Victoria Cross onto Charles Upham's uniform. He returned to New Zealand in September 1945 and ceased expeditionary service in November 1945. In April 1946 he was an official member of the New Zealand Victory Contingent.
                    Modest Hero
                    Epitomising a certain strain of Kiwi modesty, Charles Upham was embarrassed by the accolades he received and attempted to avoid international media attention. When the people of Canterbury collected and offered him 10,000 pounds to purchase a farm in recognition of his gallantry, Upham refused and instead insisted the money be put towards an educational scholarship for children of returned soldiers.


                    At the conclusion of the war he returned to New Zealand to resume life as a sheep farmer in Hundalee, an isolated area north of Christchurch. It was rumoured that Charlie Upham never allowed a German-made car or machine onto the farm. He died in 1994.
                    When King George VI enquired to Major-General Kippenberger whether Upham deserved a Bar to the Cross, Kippenberger replied, "In my respectful opinion, sir, Upham has won the VC several times over." The Complete Australian and New Zealand Victoria Cross Reference affirms that "without doubt Upham remains one of the most courageous leaders of any modern conflict". Charles Upham was unassumingly a true edge warrior.
                    In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                    Leibniz

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                    • #70
                      More on Charles Upham

                      I'm quoting from memory here but here's another couple of 'incidents' not mentioned above.

                      As the NZEF was consolidating a position Uphams company was coming under fire from fixed German positions. Determining that the fire was innacurate, Upham drove a truck in front of the NZ lines and stood on top of the cab with some binoculars, calling in fire on the German positions as they shot at him. He continued this for 20 odd minutes until all the German fire had stopped.

                      Whilst reconnoitering in a landrover with an intelligence officer the landrover got bogged down in the sand. When they were trying to dig it out an Italian patrol advanced toward them. Upham, in poor German, ordered the patrol to push the landrover out, told them off for looking sloppy and returned to Allied lines.

                      On another solo recon. he took over 100 armed Italian soldiers prisoner, marching them into camp to the supprise of his men.
                      In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                      Leibniz

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                      • #71
                        Miyamoto Musashi
                        Victory is the only end that justifies the sacrifice of men at war.

                        Col. Robert W. Black

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                        • #72
                          I think we can safely look at any Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, DFC, AF Cross, VC, etc citation and find a worthy mention.

                          To my shame I cannot remember the name or the book, but one of Keith W. Nolan's excellent histories of Vietnam battles has one I cannot forget. A USMC battalion was in a hell of a fight with several NVA regiments in northern I Corps. They were heavily engaged with many NVA machinegun positions around them. A company commander (at the time) was describing the actions of one of his squad leaders. This marine went forward many times with grenades, silencing machinegun positions under heavy fire by getting close and lobbing frags. The company First Sergeant went with him, covering him with a .45. (yes a .45!) no doubt cussing him the whole time. After eliminating several positions, the marine was shot in the head and killed. The company CO relating this story put him in for the Medal of Honor, but as he said: "men far away from combat who did not see what I saw him do downgraded it to a posthumous Navy Cross."

                          Friggin REMFs.
                          Rule 303

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                          • #73
                            The last two CMoH's awarded were awarded Posthumously.

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                            • #74
                              About choice for Greatest warrior, I'll stick to someone closer home, who I know existed.
                              - Shivaji - broke the hold of the Mugal empire and spread the Maratha influence upto Afghanistan.
                              - Ranjit Singh - broke the hold in the north of the Mugal empire.
                              These two effectively caused the down fall of the Mugal empire in India.
                              Modern warfare has so many true warriors that mentioning all is difficult.

                              Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by lemontree
                                About choice for Greatest warrior, I'll stick to someone closer home, who I know existed.
                                - Shivaji - broke the hold of the Mugal empire and spread the Maratha influence upto Afghanistan.
                                - Ranjit Singh - broke the hold in the north of the Mugal empire.
                                These two effectively caused the down fall of the Mugal empire in India.
                                Modern warfare has so many true warriors that mentioning all is difficult.

                                how about Vikram batra of tiger hill.he knew he was gonna get killed yet he did what he had to do.a true hero.
                                below is his last letter to home....
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