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    http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...fghanistan.htm
    Defence Secretary John Hutton has announced a package worth £700 million today, which will pay for some 700 new armoured vehicles to further improve the safety and protection of troops on operations in Afghanistan.

    The Protected Mobility Package announced by Mr Hutton today, Wednesday 29 October 2008, includes provision of £350 million for 400 brand new armoured support trucks which will be used to accompany patrols and carry essential supplies such as water and ammunition. The three distinct categories of Tactical Support Vehicles (TSV) are:

    Wolfhound: TSV (Heavy). Heavy armoured support trucks - supporting and re-supplying Mastiffs in the highest threat areas. These vehicles will have the highest levels of mine blast protection;

    Husky: TSV (Medium). Medium armoured support trucks - carrying out the support roles in lower threat areas and where heavy vehicles, like Mastiff, cannot be used;

    Coyote: TSV (Light). Light armoured support vehicles - supporting Jackals across the harsh terrain of Afghanistan.

    Other vehicles which will be paid for out of the £700 million include:

    Over 100 brand new cross-country vehicles called Warthog which, with greater protection levels, will replace Vikings in Afghanistan, and over 100 more Jackals, the extremely agile all-terrain vehicles which include high-levels of off-road mobility and firepower.

    £96 million from the package will also be used to develop a specialist route clearance system known as Talisman, which will provide a new high-tech way of dealing with the IED (Improvised Explosive Device) threat. Among the Talisman vehicles to be developed will be the Buffalo mine-protected vehicle and the Engineer Excavator.

    Announcing the new vehicles, Defence Secretary John Hutton said:

    "Getting the right vehicles and equipment to our Armed Forces has always been an absolute priority. Today's multi-million pound package shows that we are responding to new and changing threats on the ground and will provide our serving personnel with the highest levels of protection and mobility that technology will allow.

    "I have seen first-hand the difference our Mastiff and Jackals are already making to our troops in Afghanistan; the arrival of 700 new vehicles will improve even further their ability to move cross-country and provide vital support with the utmost protection to our existing vehicle fleets."

    In addition, new vehicles, and upgrades and modifications were also announced today. 30 base Cougar vehicles will be purchased, a mixture of 4x4s and 6x6s, which will be modified to boost our training fleets for Mastiff and Ridgback.

    The new Panther vehicle has been modified and upgraded to prepare for its arrival in Afghanistan and a new variant of the Snatch has been developed, known as the Snatch-Vixen, which, especially designed for Afghanistan, has been given extra power and payload which enhances the mobility and protection of the vehicle.

    Today's announcement builds on previous measures that are already making a difference in Iraq and Afghanistan including the introduction of the hugely successful Mastiff with its superior levels of protection and the Jackal with its impressive firepower and speed, allowing troops to get off the tracks and roads and strike hard at the enemy from all directions.

    Mastiff's smaller brother Ridgback, due to arrive on operations early in the new year, will also add to these measures, delivering protection levels close to that of the Mastiff in a package that gives better access to urban areas.

    £500 million of the funding for the Protected Mobility Package has been allocated from the Treasury Reserve while Defence will fund a part of the package in acknowledgement of the longer term benefit to core defence capability these vehicles offer beyond our current commitments
    A few questions if anyone knows

    1) Is this £700 million 'new money' or has it been taken from the existing budget?

    2) Does anyone know if this is part of the wider FRES project?

    3) Anyone else think these have been turned around pretty quick? I know some of these vehicles are already in use, but this is a big package all round.

    Views and opinions on the vehicles would be appreciated

  • #2
    what vehicles are these anyway ?
    What is the Warthog cross-country vehicle for example?
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    • #3
      its actually new money from an emergency order fund.
      Naval Warfare Discussion is dying on WAB

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      • #4
        i would like to see some pictures.... sound interesting. maybe MRAP????

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        • #5
          Here's a link to some of the vehicles. Go to left hand column click "New Armoured Veh's for Afhganistan"...http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/equipment.aspx

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          • #6
            At least we are getting these, hopefully they will be provide more protection, (primarily against IED's), than the Snatches that I am used to.
            Nulli Secundus
            People always talk of dying for their country, and never of making the other bastard die for his

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            • #7
              The jackal is the coolest madmax like vehicle ive seen in years. Road warrior if your not in USA.

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              • #8
                New British Army Vehicals

                Warthog AA-TV see Bellow - Basicaly A Bigger Vicking for all extra Weight ie Kit Wepons and Armour.
                http://www.doing-alright.army.mod.uk...w/warthog1.jpg

                Panther LCV see Bellow - 4X4 General porpuse Armoured Vehical a sort of Spartin ARV-T with wheels

                Coyote TSV(L) see Bellow - Basicaly A Bigger Jackel/Jackel 2 for load carring ie fua,l ammo, spares, Rations and Water for Jackels and Crews.
                http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/..._Coyote_lg.jpg


                Husky TSV(M)see Bellow - Basicaly A specialist support Vehical for the Ridgbacks & Mastiff PPV (Possibily but not Likly Vector) think in the same vain as Sultan and Samaritin for the Scorpion CVR-T Family
                http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24...701240.jpgther

                Wolfhound TSV(H) - Basicaly A Bigger armoured equivelint of the Coyote for the Ridgeback / Mastiff PPV ie a Fuel Ammo Spares Rations and Water Carrier for the Longer patrols.
                http://www.forceprotection.net/model...os/image_1.jpg

                Is it new Money yes as is comming in under the Urgent Op Req Banner so the Tresury pays out then they have the Boxing Match

                As for FRES = Mowag VI that is on hold as due to Operational exsperiance in Iraq and Afgan the Requirement has Changed (Not Drastickly Mainly Coms and crew protection) ie Stryker Brigade sort of requirments but and this is the thing that would cost more and MOD / Tresure figure that thats not on so they have requested thet the applicants for FRES Reapli at a future Date after the New requirments have been pinpointed.

                In my view the original FRES is realy needed but after Afgan and IraqExsperiance the Goal posts have moved the need the Vahical to be abile to take a hit and Keep Rolling and Crew safe which means thay need to re-draft the Requirments also the Money was kind of moved to Masstiffs Ridge backs Jackels and there support Vehicals not spent insted more used becase the Brass want to get the Kit to the Troops and The FRES IS not at this Time urgent (Mind if the Tresuery p***** about to much the boys at the pointy end might find tham selfes rolling in 2tonners or even Pigs and Sarrecen)

                Hope that helps Oh and have a search for the Springer (ATV) on

                http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4Ulhsnr0_C...0/s400/ATV.jpg

                if you like the Jackel this will make you giggile cant for the Life see the Point unless the Need more cargo then Yamaha Grizzly Quade gives them with Trailer and the Supacat with Trailer dosent messure up any more ?? (dought it)
                Last edited by coynieuk; 20 May 09,, 16:15. Reason: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_Jackal_TSV-L_Coyote_lg.jpg

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BD1 View Post
                  what vehicles are these anyway ?
                  What is the Warthog cross-country vehicle for example?



                  ...Sorry, couldn't resist.

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                  • #10
                    The Panther is a Command Vehicle.

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                    • #11
                      The warthog is also known as the Bronco ATTC (All Tracked Terrain Carrier), built by Singapore for the Singapore Army.

                      It looks like a BVs-10, but its articulated system, armour, payload and design are entirely different.

                      Basic specifications:
                      Unladen weight: 11tons
                      Max Laden weight: 16tons.
                      Payload: 5 tons.

                      It is armoured at the basic level against up to 7.62mm rounds and can be fitted with additional armour, standard fitted with smoke launchers and can be armed with GPMG and RWS systems

                      It is amphibious without preparation as well.

                      Singapore Technologies sent 2 hulls to the UK DoD for blast testing and they were satisfied that its armour met/exceeded their requirements against mines, IEDs and small arms.

                      Its highly versatile and at least 400 has been built for the Singapore Army, used for command post, troop carrier, ambulance, logistics, mobile radar systems, and also a 120mm super-rapid (10rd/min) mortar system.

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                      • #12
                        Yeah I agree, Its a highly smart vehicle. DPS and ICCZ intercoms make it really easy to drive.

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