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    U.N. again throws out Taiwan bid for recognition

    U.N. again throws out Taiwan bid for recognition


    TAIPEI - The United Nations has again ruled out a U.N. role for Taiwan, a Taipei official said on Thursday, despite a recent thaw in relations with China which considers the island a breakaway province.

    A U.N. subcommittee decided on Wednesday in New York it would not let the General Assembly consider Taiwan's request for permission to join U.N. activities, an island foreign ministry official said.

    Fifteen attempts by Taiwan to join the United Nations have failed, most recently last year. The United Nations ousted Taiwan in favor of China in 1971.

    This time, Taiwan was not applying for membership, just to take part in unspecified U.N. "activities."

    China has seen self-ruled, democratic Taiwan as part of its territory rather than as a separate country since the island broke away from Mao Zedong's Communists amid civil war in 1949. Statehood is a requirement for U.N. membership.

    But since taking office in May, Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou has declared a diplomatic truce with China, which has about 170 allies worldwide compared to Taiwan's 23.

    "The foreign ministry expresses regret," deputy minister Andrew Hsia told a news conference.
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    Silly of the UN.

    If Palestine can have Observer status, why not Taiwan?


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

    I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

    HAKUNA MATATA

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    • #3
      ray,

      Silly of the UN.

      If Palestine can have Observer status, why not Taiwan?
      because none of the permanent UNSC members are dead-set against the idea of a palestinian authority having observer status.
      There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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        because the late president of Republic of China Cheng Khai Shek insisted that his exiled government is a legitimated representative of Mainland China. for so many years he refused to gain independent because he though he could go back and defeat PRC. so you can not have 2 UN seats in one country. Nixon gave its UN seat to PRC to break up Communist Axis. a good political move- i would said.

        Taiwan blew the only chance their got in 1949. an independent status is increasingly unrealistic and provoke military action. Chinese is famous for their border hunger. they silly enough to claim entire state Arunachal Pradesh.

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        • #5
          Nixon gave its UN seat to PRC to break up Communist Axis. a good political move- i would said.
          wrong.
          There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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          • #6
            Taiwan signed their death warrant when they withdrew from the U.N. after the U.N. accepted the PRC as a member. Not even the U.S. officially recognizes them.

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            • #7
              It wasn't Taiwan's choice.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rj1 View Post
                Taiwan signed their death warrant when they withdrew from the U.N. after the U.N. accepted the PRC as a member. Not even the U.S. officially recognizes them.
                You realize that it wasn't a willing decision. They were more or less kicked out.

                Edit: What OoE said.

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                • #9
                  Because the UN hates Israel, but is sympathetic towards China?
                  http://groundpoundingtruth.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Autrian_Novice View Post
                    ...

                    so you can not have 2 UN seats in one country.

                    ...
                    Not true. The USSR had several seats.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GraniteForge View Post
                      Not true. The USSR had several seats.

                      Different seats are for different councils-ECOSOC, GA, SC, etc.-1 country seat per council, but a country cannot have two seats in the GA or two seats on the SC.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Herodotus View Post
                        Different seats are for different councils-ECOSOC, GA, SC, etc.-1 country seat per council, but a country cannot have two seats in the GA or two seats on the SC.
                        Again, not true.

                        The USSR had three seats at the time of the founding of the UN in 1945. They were titled: Soviet Union, Belarus, Ukraine.
                        Last edited by GraniteForge; 19 Sep 08,, 03:18. Reason: name correction

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                        • #13
                          Chinese have broken the will of Taiwanese, by either threathening the war or luring with profit.

                          Nobody bothers that any more.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GraniteForge View Post
                            Again, not true.

                            The USSR had three seats at the time of the founding of the UN in 1945. They were titled: Soviet Union, Belarus, Ukraine.
                            That is three separate seats for three separate entities.

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                              Originally posted by longbow View Post
                              Chinese have broken the will of Taiwanese, by either threathening the war or luring with profit.

                              Nobody bothers that any more.
                              Well apparently they didn't break their will enough to prevent Taiwan from applying for UN status or enough to the point that Taiwan just throws it's hands up and joins the PRC.

                              Threats of war from China aren't really death threats. (Read the who knows how many posts on hypothetical PLA/PLAAN/PLAAF invasion of Taiwan)

                              Luring with profit? What? I don't understand what you're talking about... Do you mean bribing?

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