GWOT money for Pakistan fighters

[Guest]

actually the chinese designers of the chengdu j-10 did have access to both pakistani f-16's and if the rumour mills are right an israeli lavi was also available for them to study and copy the design this will just help the chinese build j-10 mk 2 faster.

Correct, everyone knows that but our 'strategic ally' doesn't!!! But they should know this very well as they were the 'power behind the throne' in pakistan (though currently replaced by china) for years, so isn't that a contradictory move by the world's most powerful country???? What actually they want??? Want to keep pakistan in hand?? or another kind of 'power-balance' game?? Nuke deal for India and free weapons for pakistan!!

[Guest]

I don't understand why everyone thinks US is such a bakara

[bengalraider]

I don't understand why everyone thinks US is such a bakara

actually the US is not a bakra at all it makes perfect sense to them to start selling their f-16's as is they are going to start replacing them with the f-35 in a few years , f-16 for the united states is now old tech and the united states does not give a damn about these planes being used against India.

[Guest]

actually the US is not a bakra at all it makes perfect sense to them to start selling their f-16's as is they are going to start replacing them with the f-35 in a few years , f-16 for the united states is now old tech and the united states does not give a damn about these planes being used against India.

Bengalrider read the article carefully they are only going to upgrade them read the set of constraints the Us has kept

· site surveys and end-use monitoring, including annual inventories of all equipment related to the F-16s, by US officials;
· dedicated facilities for storage of spare parts and maintenance;
· strict limitations on access to the planes;
· complete segregation of the F-16s from third country-origin aircraft;
· express permission from the US government before Pakistan can fly the planes outside of its own airspace;
· full compliance with the security plan before the planes, weapons and equipment can be delivered.

Pakistan is the Bakara to accept this sort of aid

[Guest]

I don't understand why everyone thinks US is such a bakara

No one 'thinking' US is a 'bakara' but we want to understand the over-intelligent US policy here in this case, thats it. :))

[Guest]

actually the chinese designers of the chengdu j-10 did have access to both pakistani f-16's and if the rumour mills are right an israeli lavi was also available for them to study and copy the design this will just help the chinese build j-10 mk 2 faster.

The difference is China already has J-10 under mass production. They were able to put together all the resources needed despite arms embargoes. Now compare that to LCA.

[Guest]

The difference is China already has J-10 under mass production. They were able to put together all the resources needed despite arms embargoes. Now compare that to LCA.

!! wrong thread.

India is a democratic country where Indian Armed Forces independently chooses its all systems with no intervention by others (example T-90S and Arjun) while china is ruled by communist dictators so whatever weapon may be they produce, have to be selected by PLAAF. Now compare that to J-10. ;)

[Sumku]

while china is ruled by communist dictators so whatever weapon may be they produce, have to be selected by PLAAF. Now compare that to J-10. ;)

Cannot be more wrong than that. Infact. PLAAF was not quite happy with J-10 and was shovelled down its throat by CCP

[Guest]

Gurung you are not able to catch his point

[Guest]

!! wrong thread.

India is a democratic country where Indian Armed Forces independently chooses its all systems with no intervention by others

If LCA is renamed "DEMOCRATIC FIGHTER" will that substitute for lack performance ? There are lot of Democratic countries who have developed outstanding fighters.

[Sumku]

If LCA is renamed "DEMOCRATIC FIGHTER" will that substitute for lack performance ? There are lot of Democratic countries who have developed outstanding fighters.

Care to elaborate more on this?
What Performance failures are you referring to as concerns LCA?
In its category LCA is ranks amongs the Best. LCA is Light Combat Aircraft, its not medium or Heavy AC so it cannot be compared to Grippen or Rafale or SH.

LCA was conceptualized to fullfill the role of Mig-21 Bisons, and once it takes to the skies it would do that Job very effectively.

Moreover, Developmental issues cannot be called as performence lack. Performance Lack would be when LCA is rolled out and is not able to perform as per expectations.

[Guest]

Care to elaborate more on this?
What Performance failures are you as per expectations.

sorry! I was not referring to anything specific. I meant it in a broad term like being able to deliver the aircraft on schedule.

[Sumku]

sorry! I was not referring to anything specific. I meant it in a broad term like being able to deliver the aircraft on schedule.

You dont have to be sorry dude.
However, I guess almost every other AC[especially the first ones' that a country makes on its own] is delayed and is not on time.

This Article explains the time it took for China to come with J-10. India is no different and has a lot less industrial base than China and a lot less financial resources at its disposal than China.

[Guest]

Gurung you are not able to catch his point

Samku and Whill both got it but you did not. I know very well what he means.... "LCA is a failure thats why IAF not inducting it." He is just comparing without any technical or current issues but the funadmental by hearted quote... "LCA is a failure". thats it.

I am assuring you that he dont know anything about LCA and he deserve such kind of reply. Different people, diffrent types of answers. ;)

[Guest]

If LCA is renamed "DEMOCRATIC FIGHTER" will that substitute for lack performance ?

If J-10 renamed as "COMMUNIST FIGHTER", that also change nothing that it was 'shovelled down PLAAF's throat' !!

There are lot of Democratic countries who have developed outstanding fighters

Only democratic countries make outstanbding fighters and i am considering Russia as well.

BTW whether you accept it or not all the systems of LCA are working fine and IAF will soon have first squadron of it.