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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. has been secretly advising and encouraging a Pakistani militant group that has carried out a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran, ABC News reported on Tuesday, citing U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources.

    The raids have resulted in the deaths or capture of Iranian soldiers and officials, ABC reported.

    The group, members of the Baluchi tribe, operates from Pakistan's gas-rich province of Baluchistan, just across the border from Iran, the report said.

    The only relationship with the group that U.S. intelligence acknowledges is cooperation in tracking al Qaeda figures in that part of Pakistan, ABC reported.

    The group, called Jundullah, has produced videos showing Iranian soldiers and border guards it says it has captured, ABC said.

    ABC cited U.S. government sources it did not identify as saying the United States does not provide direct funding for the group but has maintained close ties to its leader, Abd el Malik Regi, since 2005.

    A CIA official said the account was not accurate.

    Regi claims to have personally executed some of the Iranian captives, the ABC News report said

    "He is essentially commanding a force of several hundred guerrilla fighters that stage attacks across the border into Iran on Iranian military officers, Iranian intelligence officers, kidnapping them, executing them on camera," said Alexis Debat, a senior fellow on counterterrorism at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant.

    "He used to fight with the Taliban. He's part drug smuggler, part Taliban, part Sunni activist," Debat told ABC.

    The group took credit for an attack in February that killed at least 11 members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard riding on a bus in the Iranian city of Zehedan, ABC said.

    According to the report, Iranian state television last month broadcast what it said were confessions by those responsible for the bus attack.

    They reportedly admitted to being members of Jundullah and said they had been trained for the mission at a secret location in Pakistan, ABC said.

    ABC cited Pakistani government sources as saying the secret campaign against Iran was on the agenda when Vice President Dick Cheney met with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in February.

    Asked about the report, Cheney spokeswoman Megan McGinn responded: "We don't discuss conversations between the vice president and foreign leaders."
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    Ok what we have here? US promoting insurgents inside Iran, lead by a drug smuggler who beheads the captives on Video? I thought beheading is a honor reserved only for Kaffirs.

  • #2
    Nothing surprising!

    CIA is known to be hyperactive in these types of activities.


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

    I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

    HAKUNA MATATA

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    • #3
      The Secret War Against Iran

      The Blotter: The Secret War Against Iran

      A Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News.

      The group, called Jundullah, is made up of members of the Baluchi tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just across the border from Iran.

      It has taken responsibility for the deaths and kidnappings of more than a dozen Iranian soldiers and officials.

      U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require an official presidential order or "finding" as well as congressional oversight.

      Tribal sources tell ABC News that money for Jundullah is funneled to its youthful leader, Abd el Malik Regi, through Iranian exiles who have connections with European and Gulf states.

      Jundullah has produced its own videos showing Iranian soldiers and border guards it says it has captured and brought back to Pakistan.

      The leader, Regi, claims to have personally executed some of the Iranians.

      "He used to fight with the Taliban. He's part drug smuggler, part Taliban, part Sunni activist," said Alexis Debat, a senior fellow on counterterrorism at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant who recently met with Pakistani officials and tribal members.

      "Regi is essentially commanding a force of several hundred guerrilla fighters that stage attacks across the border into Iran on Iranian military officers, Iranian intelligence officers, kidnapping them, executing them on camera," Debat said.

      Most recently, Jundullah took credit for an attack in February that killed at least 11 members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard riding on a bus in the Iranian city of Zahedan.

      Last month, Iranian state television broadcast what it said were confessions by those responsible for the bus attack.

      They reportedly admitted to being members of Jundullah and said they had been trained for the mission at a secret location in Pakistan.

      The Iranian TV broadcast is interspersed with the logo of the CIA, which the broadcast blamed for the plot.

      A CIA spokesperson said "the account of alleged CIA action is false" and reiterated that the U.S. provides no funding of the Jundullah group.

      Pakistani government sources say the secret campaign against Iran by Jundullah was on the agenda when Vice President Dick Cheney met with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in February.

      A senior U.S. government official said groups such as Jundullah have been helpful in tracking al Qaeda figures and that it was appropriate for the U.S. to deal with such groups in that context.

      Some former CIA officers say the arrangement is reminiscent of how the U.S. government used proxy armies, funded by other countries including Saudi Arabia, to destabilize the government of Nicaragua in the 1980s.

      So much for the so-called crusadering war-on-terror!!! it seems that every one can play the terror-game when it benefits them. Though, I presume they are called freedom fighters in America, as Hizbollah are called freedom fighters in Iran. The important thing for people is to realize that hypocracy exists on both sides, the only difference is that on one side the hypocracy is "legitmized" and on the other side it is "demonized", on world stage, depending who is the most powerfull on the world stage. US as the superpower has the power to make a nation "vassal-state" out of a few terrorists if it so wishes by the power of rubber stamp, while with the same rubber stamp, it can stamp a nation into terrorist state, of so it wishes. Funny world we live in.
      Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 04 Apr 07,, 17:23. Reason: Change to easier to read format for old dinosaur eyes

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      • #4
        Iran is currently building a 10ft high and 3ft wide concrete wall that will stretch almost the entire length of the border with Pakistan. That will solve this and other problems coming over from Pakistan.

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        • #5
          That will only work if you put two corps to guard it.

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          • #6
            Xerxes,

            The War on Terror slogan does not impress anyone who understand strategy and international politics.

            It is merely a cloak to pursue national geostrategy!

            Bush is merely the spokesman. He is actually an innocent catspaw.

            Cheney, the duck man, is the brain behind it all!


            "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

            I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

            HAKUNA MATATA

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            • #7
              What are the aims of Jundullah?

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              • #8
                If they are killing memebers of the Pasadran, lets give them all the money theey can spend. The Pasadran isn't exactyl bashful about killing Americans, being reminded of thier own mortality would be good.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Alamgir View Post
                  Iran is currently building a 10ft high and 3ft wide concrete wall that will stretch almost the entire length of the border with Pakistan. That will solve this and other problems coming over from Pakistan.
                  Alot of people have built walls similar to this throughout history, they weren't exactly that successful, how will this be any different.
                  Those who can't change become extinct.

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                  • #10
                    The Great Wall of China was mostly successful, was it not?

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                    • #11
                      The CIA has been doing these kinds of things for decades.
                      Those who can't change become extinct.

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                      • #12
                        Threads merged:)
                        In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                        Leibniz

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CMartel View Post
                          What are the aims of Jundullah?
                          wipe out Iran off the map

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gamercube View Post
                            The Great Wall of China was mostly successful, was it not?
                            Perhaps to regulate the traffic coming into a country. In warfare, an attacker can concentrate his forces and breach the wall at a single point, whereas the defender must be prepared to defend it evenly, distributing his forces too thinly.
                            "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ray View Post
                              Xerxes,

                              The War on Terror slogan does not impress anyone who understand strategy and international politics.

                              It is merely a cloak to pursue national geostrategy!

                              Bush is merely the spokesman. He is actually an innocent catspaw.

                              Cheney, the duck man, is the brain behind it all!

                              I found the low-profile defacto president to be a very scary person.

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