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Originally posted by dave angel View PostMachiavelli shows you how to win a war without having to fight it, Sun Tzo shows you how to prepare a for war and then win it, while Von Clausewitz...
well, he's a German, WTF would he know about winning wars?
sorry to intrude in a thread of learning, but its a very old BA joke that just has to dragged up at any opportunity...
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Look at their careers....
(and old Nick's too!)
Not terribly succcessful fellows, were they? And that too, as advisors! Let us charitably say they suffered from bad luck (more than they would do for us). Let us also say they salvaged their lives' works into their "lessons learnt" pieces - thats still not very reassuring as far as structural integrity goes.
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Originally posted by Cactus View Post(and old Nick's too!)
Not terribly succcessful fellows, were they? And that too, as advisors! Let us charitably say they suffered from bad luck (more than they would do for us). Let us also say they salvaged their lives' works into their "lessons learnt" pieces - thats still not very reassuring as far as structural integrity goes.
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Originally posted by deadkenny View Post...Stalingrad was in fact fought from the second half of August '42 to Feb. 1 '43, or just about 5.5 months. So, two years is rather an exaggeration.
Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostI so stand corrected but I was actually thinking the entire front.
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Were the Mongols the only ones in history that had the most effective solution to insurrgency ??
.... or are they the only ones that are most remembered like that. I would think other kingdoms and empire atleast in Asia and Europe carried out their own genocides against insurrgents. In case of Mongol, I would say it was their combined atrocities coast to coast that labeled them as such.
Were the Japanese equally brutal?? if we go back to the ancient time the Achmenides under Daruis and Xerxes were mericless toward rebellious satraps, and so were the Romans. The tartars under Timurlang. In medival times, the Ottoman Turks and Russians.
But to quote Edward Gibbons, the Mongols did a service to mankind by eradicating the Assassins and the Old Man of the Mountain.Last edited by xerxes; 09 Sep 07,, 22:55.
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Clausewitz is more applicable simply because his work is more comprehensive and less prone to free interpretation.
Sun Tzu offers some insights as well.
I feel that a new, really comprehensive work is overdue. Something that includes all still relevant art of war that was developed so far.
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Originally posted by lastdingo View PostClausewitz is more applicable simply because his work is more comprehensive and less prone to free interpretation."So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
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still reading through it but it seems pretty damn comprehensive to me.
OOE sir as im a jargon challenged civvie could you recommend any book on logistics that explains things in more simple terms?For Gallifrey! For Victory! For the end of time itself!!
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Originally posted by lastdingo View PostThat's not even nearly as comprehensive as what I missed.
The most important matters are not even mentioned in that FM.
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Originally posted by bolo121 View Poststill reading through it but it seems pretty damn comprehensive to me.
OOE sir as im a jargon challenged civvie could you recommend any book on logistics that explains things in more simple terms?"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
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