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  • #16
    Originally posted by highsea View Post
    With those high sides it's going to be a b*tch getting the sea-doos on and off...
    It has a stern ramp and a side door for that.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by BenRoethig View Post
      It has a stern ramp and a side door for that.
      It better! I don't see any kind of fishing cockpit either, which is an obvious design flaw. I suppose the day boats will have to do...
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      • #18
        Originally posted by highsea View Post
        With those high sides it's going to be a b*tch getting the sea-doos on and off...
        I don't know what the stern looks like...maybe it's configured for launch and recovery.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
          I don't know what the stern looks like...maybe it's configured for launch and recovery.
          UH, TH you might want to look two or three posts up.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Dreadnought View Post
            SOMEBODY PAINT THAT POOR THING HAZE GREY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
            And mount a couple fake guns on it.(since real guns are apparently out of the question)

            Right now it wouldn't intimidate a girl scout.

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            • #21
              Know what you mean man. Im still not comfortable with the armament that these are going to get.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by HKDan View Post
                Know what you mean man. Im still not comfortable with the armament that these are going to get.
                they're coming up with some kind of weapons module for the top of the helicopter deck. That being said, I'd feel much better if they found room for an 8-cell Mk41 SDL length launcher somewhere for ESSM.
                F/A-18E/F Super Hornet: The Honda Accord of fighters.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by M21Sniper View Post
                  And mount a couple fake guns on it.(since real guns are apparently out of the question)

                  Right now it wouldn't intimidate a girl scout.
                  LMAO
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BenRoethig View Post
                    It has a stern ramp and a side door for that.
                    Here's a good shot of them:
                    http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...lm-image31.jpg

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                    • #25
                      Hopefully that is hopefully she'll end up pierside here sometime in the future for a closer look.:)
                      Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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                      • #26
                        I get the impression that this is not a ship to take on any sort of major combatants, but smaller vessels, mines, special ops, and maybe subs in shallows. How would this ship handle in "blue water" with that shallow draft? What use would it be to be in a battle group? What if it ran up against a hostile Russian Frigate armed with Moskits? From what information they are telling us so far, it's lunchmeat against any major combatant.
                        Last edited by Sandman; 03 Oct 06,, 22:37.

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                        • #27
                          Dang. Didn't realize those babies were that close to production. Not too bad...if you're Sweden. Seriously, I do think there's a place for corvette size warships in coastal areas, but give 'em some hitting power, for pete's sake. But maybe it's a tradeoff between range/speed and firepower?
                          Originally posted by Sandman View Post
                          Not bad looking, but Ruskie ships have a more sharply angled bow, which I like. (is that called "rake"?) Maybe looks isn't important though.
                          Yes. Often the rake of the bow is related to the position of the sonar. IIRC, a bow mounted sonar requires a more raked bow, while a keel mounted sonar doesn't. I believe it has to do with keeping the anchor from hitting the sonar. Personally, I like both the American/Russian shark nose style and the British snub nose. Different styles, but both pretty cool.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sandman View Post
                            I get the impression that this is not a ship to take on any sort of major combatants, but smaller vessels, mines, special ops, and maybe subs in shallows. How would this ship handle in "blue water" with that shallow draft? What use would it be to be in a battle group? What if it ran up against a hostile Russian Frigate armed with Moskits? From what information they are telling us so far, it's lunchmeat against any major combatant.
                            From what I've read around here, there are some advocating using these in CVBGs, or whatever we call 'em these days. Seems like a bit of a stretch to me. One helicopter for ASW, and what else, exactly? Not even ESSM? Probably doesn't carry many weapon reloads, either. The Perrys at least have two helicopters, even if their speed leaves something to be desired.
                            I enjoy being wrong too much to change my mind.

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                            • #29
                              I for one would like to congradulate General Dynamics on their win in advance.
                              Last edited by canoe; 19 Dec 06,, 23:08.

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                              • #30
                                IMO The armament needs to be heavier. She should atleast be capable to launch the newest generation torpedoes in salvo. She does however have RAM aboard which is good.Perhaps maybe a second medium range gun on the deck.
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