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Originally posted by Zhang Fei View PostI just figured out what you meant. You mean that he was looking for recruits like me. I think that's silly.
Originally posted by Zhang FeiIf any government launched a war that killed tens of thousands of Americans, I would have no problem doing whatever it took to take that government down.
There is no nation to retaliate against. Only those who harbor and cooperate with terror organizations. Bush started to bully those who we suspect of helping Al Qaeda, not even harboring them. His plan works. Nations are less likely to give aid to our enemies if they know we just might invade them.
Of course there are those who will help them regardless, but then there will always be murderers and rapists amongst us."Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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gunnut,
Bush started to bully those who we suspect of helping Al Qaeda, not even harboring them. His plan works. Nations are less likely to give aid to our enemies if they know we just might invade them.
coercive diplomacy fails if there is no capability or if the bluff is called once too often without action (one reason why the iraq war was a good idea in the first place).
this accounts for why both iran and syria were positively crapping their pants in may 2003...and why they're smiling like the cat who swiped the milk now.There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
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unfortunately, gunnut,
Agreed. But they will crap their pants again in a few years when our troops are freed up from running police actions in Iraq.
they won't be smiling anymore, but they won't be scared crapless like they were then. back in the first flush of victory after OIF I, both parts were in place. they were taking quite seriously the threat of american divisions deciding to take a quick detour east or west.
but hell, having one of the above is better than having none at all. i think if anything, withdrawing our troops in iraq would probably make a US air campaign, instead of a land war, a good deal more credible threat. we in effect remove 150,000 potential "hostages" to syrian or iranian-financed/assisted suicide bombings et al.There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
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Originally posted by kkfan View PostWoah, that's one of the most prejudicial stereotyping comments I've ever seen, and you're basing it on the actions and morals of a man who lived ~1500 years ago? based on the same logic, christians today must be the same since they certainly didn't have a problem with looting, rape or massacres during the crusades.
How many Muslims have you actually met ? some of my friends are Muslims, and they certainly do have a problem with looting, raping or killing....Karmani Vyapurutham Dhanuhu
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Originally posted by astralis View Postyes and no. our troops getting freed up will give us back the capability, but both of them know pretty well that after iraq, the american public won't be so eager to approve of military actions that will send those same troops back for another tour in the middle east.
Originally posted by astralis View Postthey won't be smiling anymore, but they won't be scared crapless like they were then. back in the first flush of victory after OIF I, both parts were in place. they were taking quite seriously the threat of american divisions deciding to take a quick detour east or west.
but hell, having one of the above is better than having none at all. i think if anything, withdrawing our troops in iraq would probably make a US air campaign, instead of a land war, a good deal more credible threat. we in effect remove 150,000 potential "hostages" to syrian or iranian-financed/assisted suicide bombings et al."Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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