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  • #16
    Colonel,

    The article left out an important quality. That they are very God fearing.................they leave everything to God!


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

    I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

    HAKUNA MATATA

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ray
      Colonel,

      The article left out an important quality. That they are very God fearing.................they leave everything to God!
      Sir,

      Please clairfy. I cannot see God being blamed for their own stupidity.

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      • #18
        Colonel,

        It means that they take it easy and leave everything to their God to ensure victory.


        "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

        I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

        HAKUNA MATATA

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ray
          Colonel,

          It means that they take it easy and leave everything to their God to ensure victory.
          I think he means their "Inish Allah" - God willing stuff they constantly speak of

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          • #20
            Not Inish Allah, rather it's Insh'Allah. It makes a big difference. Translated it means "If it's God's will"
            Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

            Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.

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            • #21
              I think the way Chris spelled it it translates to Ifi God wills it. His typing Inishallah just sounds like he has little faith. :)

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              • #22
                Hey, I don't deal with other people's faith. Minefield if I've ever seen one...
                Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

                Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ray
                  Colonel,

                  The article left out an important quality. That they are very God fearing.................they leave everything to God!
                  Sir,
                  Definitely.Its the same even in Indo-Pak context. I guess its their "religion", for them religion comes in before anything and everything. Thats their advantage and dis-advantage.
                  A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!

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                  • #24
                    Arabs in general were very prosperous people over hundreds and hundreds of years ago, but I feel in myself that over time they're leaders have become so corrupt and so terrible that the only way they could keep power is by manipulating their people more under their religion. Religion has always been a big excuse to assume authority.

                    Granted I won't deny we christians were as fanatic or more fanatic than muslim arabs with our "heretic" talk and spanish inquisistions. Eventually though we left our religions have less to do with our lives, I won't deny though there are still christian fantics but nowhere near the level we once had, it seems though this hasn't changed though in the muslim arab world for the most part. I think the majority of arab muslims fail to see what would be good for them and not good for their leaders who in the most part have been corrupted for centuries and have led to their entire way of lifes downfall.

                    I will say though that arabs are doing a lot better than africans since they at least have governments that don't get overthrown every 2 months.

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                    • #25
                      It is better for you to shut your mouth and let others think you know nothing than for you to open it and prove that you know nothing.

                      Eygpt, South Africa, Lybia, Nigeria, Algeria, Morroco, are all in Africa and all have stable governments for decades.

                      When was Arabs prosperous? When they were under the Turks? Who were NOT Arabs.

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                      • #26
                        Egyptians, libyans, morrocoians and aligerians are not africans.

                        Egypt and Libya are succesful but at the same time oppressive dictatorships.

                        Algeria who you think is a great arab or african as you thought country, well hah hah very funny, is to laugh.

                        Here is the history of Algeria and you think it should be a good rolemodel.

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                        Excavations in Algeria have indicated that Homo erectus resided there between 500,000 and 700,000 years ago. Phoenician traders settled on the Mediterranean coast in the 1st millennium B.C. As ancient Numidia, Algeria became a Roman colony, part of what was called Mauretania Caesariensis, at the close of the Punic Wars (145 B.C.). Conquered by the Vandals about A.D. 440, it fell from a high state of civilization to virtual barbarism, from which it partly recovered after an invasion by Arabs about 650. Christian during its Roman period, the indigenous Berbers were then converted to Islam. Falling under the control of the Ottoman Empire by 1536, Algiers served for three centuries as the headquarters of the Barbary pirates. Ostensibly to rid the region of the pirates, the French occupied Algeria in 1830 and made it a part of France in 1848.

                        Algerian independence movements led to the uprisings of 1954–1955, which developed into full-scale war. In 1962, French president Charles de Gaulle began the peace negotiations, and on July 5, 1962, Algeria was proclaimed independent. In Oct. 1963, Ahmed Ben Bella was elected president, and the country became socialist. He began to nationalize foreign holdings and aroused opposition. He was overthrown in a military coup on June 19, 1965, by Col. Houari Boumedične, who suspended the constitution and sought to restore economic stability.

                        In Dec. 1991 in the first parliamentary elections ever held in Algeria, the fundamentalist Islamic Salvation Front (Front Islamique du Salut; FIS) won the largest number of votes. To thwart the electoral results, the army cancelled the general election, which plunged the country into a bloody civil war. An estimated 100,000 people have been massacred by Islamic terrorists since war began in Jan. 1992. The undeclared civil war escalated in its brutality and senselessness in 1997–1998. Islamic extremists, who had originally focused their attacks on government officials and then shifted to intellectuals and journalists, abandoned political motivations entirely and targeted defenseless villagers. The mass slaughters were as savage as they were random, and the government was markedly ineffectual in stemming the violence. There is some evidence that the army in fact looked the other way while its civilians were slaughtered. Algeria refused international mediation and kept the outside world largely in the dark about the war within its borders.

                        Abdel-Aziz Bouteflika's ascension to the presidency in April 1999 was initially expected to bring peace and some economic improvement to this desperate war-torn country. Bouteflika, however, has been locked in power struggles with the military, whose support is crucial. Despite the appearance of democracy, Algeria remains in essence a military dictatorship. Bouteflika's plan of national reconciliation, which included an amnesty for Islamic militants not convicted of murder or rape, has done little to heal wounds. In 2001 violence by Islamic militants was again on the rise, and the long-disaffected Berber minority engaged in several large-scale protests. The Berber-speaking region of Kabylia and other regions continued large protests against the government in 2002.

                        Algeria's most destructive earthquake in two decades struck near the capital on May 21, 2003. The 6.7 magnitude earthquake killed more than 2,000 people and injured many thousands more.
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                        • #27
                          African maybe able to overthrow their govts every 2 months. Arabs can't. They will have their hands cut off or have their heads chopped by a scimitar or be stoned to death or whatever which is equally cruel and barbaric because most Arabsare governed by their religious laws and despotic monarchs and frenzied wahabis and their clones.

                          In Dr Livingston's time we are told that the pot roast were popular in Africa. That's no longer the popular way to sort out people.


                          "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

                          I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

                          HAKUNA MATATA

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Anvilanthony
                            Egyptians, libyans, morrocoians and aligerians are not africans.

                            Egypt and Libya are succesful but at the same time oppressive dictatorships.

                            Algeria who you think is a great arab or african as you thought country, well hah hah very funny, is to laugh.

                            Here is the history of Algeria and you think it should be a good rolemodel.

                            ===========================================
                            Excavations in Algeria have indicated that Homo erectus resided there between 500,000 and 700,000 years ago. Phoenician traders settled on the Mediterranean coast in the 1st millennium B.C. As ancient Numidia, Algeria became a Roman colony, part of what was called Mauretania Caesariensis, at the close of the Punic Wars (145 B.C.). Conquered by the Vandals about A.D. 440, it fell from a high state of civilization to virtual barbarism, from which it partly recovered after an invasion by Arabs about 650. Christian during its Roman period, the indigenous Berbers were then converted to Islam. Falling under the control of the Ottoman Empire by 1536, Algiers served for three centuries as the headquarters of the Barbary pirates. Ostensibly to rid the region of the pirates, the French occupied Algeria in 1830 and made it a part of France in 1848.

                            Algerian independence movements led to the uprisings of 1954–1955, which developed into full-scale war. In 1962, French president Charles de Gaulle began the peace negotiations, and on July 5, 1962, Algeria was proclaimed independent. In Oct. 1963, Ahmed Ben Bella was elected president, and the country became socialist. He began to nationalize foreign holdings and aroused opposition. He was overthrown in a military coup on June 19, 1965, by Col. Houari Boumedične, who suspended the constitution and sought to restore economic stability.

                            In Dec. 1991 in the first parliamentary elections ever held in Algeria, the fundamentalist Islamic Salvation Front (Front Islamique du Salut; FIS) won the largest number of votes. To thwart the electoral results, the army cancelled the general election, which plunged the country into a bloody civil war. An estimated 100,000 people have been massacred by Islamic terrorists since war began in Jan. 1992. The undeclared civil war escalated in its brutality and senselessness in 1997–1998. Islamic extremists, who had originally focused their attacks on government officials and then shifted to intellectuals and journalists, abandoned political motivations entirely and targeted defenseless villagers. The mass slaughters were as savage as they were random, and the government was markedly ineffectual in stemming the violence. There is some evidence that the army in fact looked the other way while its civilians were slaughtered. Algeria refused international mediation and kept the outside world largely in the dark about the war within its borders.

                            Abdel-Aziz Bouteflika's ascension to the presidency in April 1999 was initially expected to bring peace and some economic improvement to this desperate war-torn country. Bouteflika, however, has been locked in power struggles with the military, whose support is crucial. Despite the appearance of democracy, Algeria remains in essence a military dictatorship. Bouteflika's plan of national reconciliation, which included an amnesty for Islamic militants not convicted of murder or rape, has done little to heal wounds. In 2001 violence by Islamic militants was again on the rise, and the long-disaffected Berber minority engaged in several large-scale protests. The Berber-speaking region of Kabylia and other regions continued large protests against the government in 2002.

                            Algeria's most destructive earthquake in two decades struck near the capital on May 21, 2003. The 6.7 magnitude earthquake killed more than 2,000 people and injured many thousands more.
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                            So, that's your trick. Change the subject when you're proven that you don't know squat.

                            1st - check a friggin map
                            2nd - re-read your own friggin post and tell me how the hell did you bring history or types of gov't into this.

                            Dumb jerki!

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                            • #29
                              It is a very interesting article.
                              Though I must admit I find it hard to belive, that an army would behave so, uh, stupidly. or that it would keep doing so in spite of being showed the concequences of their actions.

                              it would be interestng to understand how they can keep on that path.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
                                So, that's your trick. Change the subject when you're proven that you don't know squat.

                                1st - check a friggin map
                                2nd - re-read your own friggin post and tell me how the hell did you bring history or types of gov't into this.

                                Dumb jerki!
                                LoL I didn't change the subject you are though.

                                You said all these countries had stable governments and great rolemodels which was a complete lie.

                                Algeria who you said has been a stable government for decades is practically in civil war.

                                Egypt and Libya which are dictatorships like Iraq used to be are nothing good to be proud of.

                                S. Africa has the highest crime rate in the world but their people control the media so they can always paint a smiley face on everything.

                                If you read everything I wrote like I know you didn't you would've read that the history I provided went all the way up to present day, but you're to french to notice that.

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