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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostFrom your own bloody coffers ...Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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Declare Martial Law then. Mushurraf did it and your country is still standing. Excuses. Excuses. This is your own friggin country. If you're not willing to fight for it no matter the cost, then someone else will. Someone else already is fighting for their own version of Pakistan no matter what their own cost.
Your enemies got the guts to give everything they've got.
You don't.Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 02 Mar 14,, 01:13.
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostDeclare Martial Law then. Mushurraf did it and your country is still standing.
Excuses. Excuses.
This is your own friggin country.
If you're not willing to fight for it no matter the cost, then someone else will. Someone else already is fighting for their own version of Pakistan no matter what their own cost.
Your enemies got the guts to give everything they've got.
You don't.Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View PostYou won't find me supporting the current government's 'dilly-dallying' over 'negotiations with the TTP'. But, that said, throwing out wild suggestions like 'impose martial law' and/or 'activate the reserves' (without taking into account the sustainability/feasibility of those options) is not something I can support either.
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostOh for Pete's akes. The Taliban is throwing everything they've got at you and they're holding you at bay. The Pakistani State is more than capable of out-manning, out-gunning, out-manuevering, out-spend the TTP. The very fact you're throwing out these friggin empty excuses states just how committed you are to this fight.
It worked wonders in the anti-Soviet war, and then in the creation of the Taliban and rule over Afghanistan.
Pakistan cannot win this war, till it repeals the zakat ordinance, and destroys every Haqqaniya madarsa in the regions east of the Durand line.
But will they destory the strategic proxies that have served them well against the NATO in Afghanistan and IA in Kashmir? They need them more, now with the NATO withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Cheers!...on the rocks!!
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Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View PostThe government IS stopping the military from going beyond the isolated retaliatory attacks - the Army's position on this was made clear from the time Kayani became COAS in 2008, that the Civilian government had to buy off on, and own, any large scale military operation. That stance, whether one agrees with it or not, is necessary given the polarization within Pakistan over the Taliban and how to best handle them, and the fact that the TTP propaganda machine has chosen to also latch onto the narrative of the Army 'calling the shots as a Western Slave and undermining Pakistan's Islamic credentials and government'.sigpicAnd on the sixth day, God created the Field Artillery...
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A.M.'s reading of P.A. policy since Kayani's ascension to COAS is accurate. The P.A. has made itself abundantly clear that it will reflect the political determination of the civilian authorities.
They have no such determination. Thus, neither the military. This is acceptable from their POV insofar as the TTP's high tide was reached in the spring of 2009 and has since receded back into the tribal territories along the afghan border. As there's no immediate existential threat to the survival of the nation, there's no corresponding will/determination to act.
Remember the levels of complaint needed by the west to provoke the Pakistani government into actively defending SWAT/Buner. Not much has changed since. As has been proven elsewhere these days, Pakistan also suffers from a lack of civilian statesmanship able to mobilize public opinion to a general consensus."This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
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