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    WASHINGTON: Reluctant to hear anything against then Pakistan president Gen Yahya Khan and his army ahead of the 1971 war, the then US President Richard Nixon branded his own envoy to India as a "traitor" and an "Indian mouthpiece", says a new book based on declassified documents.

    In fact, Nixon wanted to fire Kenneth B Keating, the then US ambassador to India, because he refused to toe his line and instead had the courage and strength to speak the truth to the President that his closest ally Pakistan was indulging in a genocide, says the book 'The Blood Telegram: Nixon, Kissinger, and a Forgotten Genocide'.

    The book is authored by Gary Bass, who is a professor of politics and international affairs at Princeton University.

    "Nixon said, 'Keating's a traitor' and told (the then secretary of state Henry) Kissinger that they should fire the ambassador. The Indians, Nixon said, were 'Awful but they are getting some assistance from Keating, of course.'

    "Kissinger agreed: 'A lot of assistance; he is practically their mouthpiece'," says the book.

    "He (Nixon) added, 'He has gone native. As I told you, I saw the Indians and listened to their complaints and Keating kept interrupting and saying but you forgot to mention this or that'. (This was false: in the meetings in Delhi, Keating only spoke once, to break an awkward silence in the conversation with Indira Gandhi)," the book said.

    "Nixon said, 'I think we ought to get moving on him; he is 71 years old'. 'Yes', replied Kissinger, 'but he would do us a lot of damage now' — the inevitable congressional outrage if their old colleague was pushed out. 'We should wait until things quiet down'. Nixon said, 'Two or 3 months and then I think we ought to do it'," according to the book.

    In another meeting at the Oval Office, Nixon wondered why every Ambassador who goes to India falls in love with it.

    "Highlighting US donations for the refugees, he for once mentioned 'human suffering', and said that they must 'go all out — all out — on the relief side'. But then he said, 'Now let me be very blunt', and ripped into Kenneth Keating: 'Every Ambassador who goes to India falls in love with India'," the book quotes Nixon as saying.

    According to the author, this direct presidential attack was so far out of bounds that Kissinger and Saunders censored it out of their official record of the conversation for the State Department.

    "Nixon told the senior state department officials that they 'have to cool off the pro-Indians in the state department and out in South Asia'. He added that fewer Americans swooned for Pakistan, 'because the Pakistanis are a different breed. The Pakistanis are straightforward — and sometimes extremely stupid. The Indians are more devious, sometimes so smart that we fall for their line'," the book said.

    TimesofIndia
    Last edited by Oracle; 18 Oct 13,, 11:49.
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    Strange, but Pakistan has been committing genocide one after the other since it's inception (1948 - Kashmir, 1971 - Bangladesh, and now Balochistan) and no one ever takes notice. Tough world.
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    • #3
      Well rumours are that those killed in 1971 in bangladesh were illegal Indian hindu from west bengal.Not Original Bangladesh's

      About Balochistan visit the quetta,balochistan Thread

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      • #4
        Originally posted by farhan_9909 View Post
        Well rumours are that those killed in 1971 in bangladesh were illegal Indian hindu from west bengal.Not Original Bangladesh's
        trying to justify the genocide?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
          trying to justify the genocide?


          sigpicAnd on the sixth day, God created the Field Artillery...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
            trying to justify the genocide?
            No.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by farhan_9909 View Post
              No.
              then why was the religion orientation of the people a pertinent fact? Why did you label those people as illegal hindus? After all, they have been there since the creation of East Pakistan. Why were they illegals in the first place? I am curious to know your reasoning and logic behind calling them as illegals? Are you implicitly saying that all Hindus are illegals?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
                trying to justify the genocide?
                genocide noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
                Deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, religious, political, or ethnic group.

                Genocide - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

                The Pakistani Military certainly committed atrocities (as did the terrorists/insurgents supported by India that it was fighting in East Pakistan), but there was never any policy/plan/effort (on the part of the government of Pakistan or those responsible for governing East Pakistan) to 'deliberately and systematically destroy the local ethnic Bengali population', and therefore the use of the word 'genocide' is not warranted.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                  genocide noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
                  Deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, religious, political, or ethnic group.

                  Genocide - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

                  The Pakistani Military certainly committed atrocities (as did the terrorists/insurgents supported by India that it was fighting in East Pakistan), but there was never any policy/plan/effort (on the part of the government of Pakistan or those responsible for governing East Pakistan) to 'deliberately and systematically destroy the local ethnic Bengali population', and therefore the use of the word 'genocide' is not warranted.
                  The government of Bangladesh and India disagree with you. And so does the UN committee that looked into the events. Sorry, pal, next time.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
                    The government of Bangladesh and India disagree with you.
                    Of course they do - the latter supported the terrorist movement and unrest that acted as a catalyst for the violence in 1971 while the former directly benefited from the actions of the latter and benefits from painting the events in as negative a light as possible, especially as a tool (by the current Bangladesh government) to destroy their political opposition.

                    Their disagreement does not change the fact that there is no evidence of the Pakistani leadership in East and West Pakistan pursuing policies of 'deliberately and systematically destroying the local ethnic Bengali population'.
                    And so does the UN committee that looked into the events. Sorry, pal, next time.
                    Which UN committee?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by farhan_9909 View Post
                      Well rumours are that those killed in 1971 in bangladesh were illegal Indian hindu from west bengal.Not Original Bangladesh's

                      About Balochistan visit the quetta,balochistan Thread
                      Interesting claim. Could be true. Can you back up your claim with credible sources?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by farhan_9909 View Post
                        Well rumours are that those killed in 1971 in bangladesh were illegal Indian hindu from west bengal.Not Original Bangladesh's

                        About Balochistan visit the quetta,balochistan Thread
                        LMAO. Yeah, those TTP are Hindus too, Zaid Hamid said so! You seemed like a rational chap until you pulled this one out of your arse.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                          Their disagreement does not change the fact that there is no evidence of the Pakistani leadership in East and West Pakistan pursuing policies of 'deliberately and systematically destroying the local ethnic Bengali population'.
                          Operation Searchlight anyone? Systematic murder, rape and displacement of Bangladeshi Hindus anyone?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                            genocide noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
                            Deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, religious, political, or ethnic group.

                            Genocide - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

                            The Pakistani Military certainly committed atrocities (as did the terrorists/insurgents supported by India that it was fighting in East Pakistan), but there was never any policy/plan/effort (on the part of the government of Pakistan or those responsible for governing East Pakistan) to 'deliberately and systematically destroy the local ethnic Bengali population', and therefore the use of the word 'genocide' is not warranted.
                            You're kidding me right?

                            All of those razakars/mullahs that supported PA are being sent to the gallows one at a time by Bangladesh. Try to read more. Pakistan as a country have yet to apologize for the genocide in Bangladesh. I don't worry much about it, as I know 'denial', denied.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cataphract View Post
                              Operation Searchlight anyone? Systematic murder, rape and displacement of Bangladeshi Hindus anyone?
                              I'm from that part of the world, I know more what PA did.
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