The Problem with Israel
This topic is in response to discussion in the Worse than Carter thread which has branched into this.
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Israel. There is a dark and muddled past that created this nation and the endless conflict that exists in that region today. There are a lot of misconceptions about Israel, its history, and what needs to be done to move forward. This has nothing to do with Jews or the Jewish people, this has just to do with the state of Israel and the Zionist worldview that has made such a mess of that part of the world. I want to do three things here: give some background history, explain the problem with Israel today in the peace process, and lay out the solution.
The History (Long read, so I put in spoiler tags if you know it already)
The Problem Today:
Simply put, the Israeli government can't be trusted. Neither can the Palestinians and neighboring states be allowed to have all of their demands. The idea of a negotiated solution is impossible at this point because the idea of Zionist expansion is still too heavy in the heads of many Israeli politicians.
This is one US general’s view of Israel’s problems and cites multiple reasons why Israel has continued to cause destabilization in the region and is not a US ally.
Among the most telling:
-Sending assassins into foreign countries to eliminate political opponents.
-Occupying territory with military force in violation of UNSC resolutions
-Assassinated a UN diplomat
-Attempted to bomb American assets in Egypt to damage US-Egyptian relations
-Refuses to extradite American-Jewish citizens who commit murder
-Attacked a UN refugee camp
-Had a PM who overtly told his staff that “We control America”
-Has defied 69 UN resolutions, and is protected from more by America
-Signed Oslo Accords to end settlements and since has created over 270 more (some have merged).
-Regular violation of Geneva Convention
-No respect for international law
The increasing number of Jewish settlements, continued eviction of Palestinians, the worsening economic conditions of Palestinians, the blockades of Gaza. and the treatment of the occupied West Bank as a colony shows the government is not interested in peace. They want to take as much as they can get and hold onto it.
What is the purpose?
The solution: The international community, led by the United States, has to stand up for the values of supporting freedom that we have long professed and long ignored. Israel wants to "negotiate a solution between the two parties". The solution will never happen because its not in Israel's interests to upset the status quo. No solution has occurred in the last 70 years and its not going to change. Israel also refused to give up its ultimatum that they be recognized as a JEWISH state. Foreign intervention is mainly responsible for supporting the creation of Jewish state and beginning the conflict, only foreign intervention will fix it. Its time to hold Israel accountable to the UN resolutions and the laws of the international community. At the same time, we need to encourage (carrot and stick if needed) the Palestinian government to support democratic values. That means Palestine must give equal treatment to Jewish citizens as they do their own and not evict the Jews living there (legally).
Sadly, we recently passed up a great opportunity to grant Palestinian statehood in the UN Security Council because of our idiotic insistance on bowing to Netanyahu's selfish interests yet again. Yes, there would have been residual problems and violence, but we were able to create Kosovo, so there is no reason Palestine should be any different. The Arab world will become more stable and extremism will decrease--and the US will gain new allies from people where it never had any support before. Israel will get in line eventually and start acting responsibly if they realize they've lost our support for their continuously stupid actions.
This topic is in response to discussion in the Worse than Carter thread which has branched into this.
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Israel. There is a dark and muddled past that created this nation and the endless conflict that exists in that region today. There are a lot of misconceptions about Israel, its history, and what needs to be done to move forward. This has nothing to do with Jews or the Jewish people, this has just to do with the state of Israel and the Zionist worldview that has made such a mess of that part of the world. I want to do three things here: give some background history, explain the problem with Israel today in the peace process, and lay out the solution.
The History (Long read, so I put in spoiler tags if you know it already)
Spoiler!
The Problem Today:
Simply put, the Israeli government can't be trusted. Neither can the Palestinians and neighboring states be allowed to have all of their demands. The idea of a negotiated solution is impossible at this point because the idea of Zionist expansion is still too heavy in the heads of many Israeli politicians.
This is one US general’s view of Israel’s problems and cites multiple reasons why Israel has continued to cause destabilization in the region and is not a US ally.
Among the most telling:
-Sending assassins into foreign countries to eliminate political opponents.
-Occupying territory with military force in violation of UNSC resolutions
-Assassinated a UN diplomat
-Attempted to bomb American assets in Egypt to damage US-Egyptian relations
-Refuses to extradite American-Jewish citizens who commit murder
-Attacked a UN refugee camp
-Had a PM who overtly told his staff that “We control America”
-Has defied 69 UN resolutions, and is protected from more by America
-Signed Oslo Accords to end settlements and since has created over 270 more (some have merged).
-Regular violation of Geneva Convention
-No respect for international law
The increasing number of Jewish settlements, continued eviction of Palestinians, the worsening economic conditions of Palestinians, the blockades of Gaza. and the treatment of the occupied West Bank as a colony shows the government is not interested in peace. They want to take as much as they can get and hold onto it.
What is the purpose?
The solution: The international community, led by the United States, has to stand up for the values of supporting freedom that we have long professed and long ignored. Israel wants to "negotiate a solution between the two parties". The solution will never happen because its not in Israel's interests to upset the status quo. No solution has occurred in the last 70 years and its not going to change. Israel also refused to give up its ultimatum that they be recognized as a JEWISH state. Foreign intervention is mainly responsible for supporting the creation of Jewish state and beginning the conflict, only foreign intervention will fix it. Its time to hold Israel accountable to the UN resolutions and the laws of the international community. At the same time, we need to encourage (carrot and stick if needed) the Palestinian government to support democratic values. That means Palestine must give equal treatment to Jewish citizens as they do their own and not evict the Jews living there (legally).
Sadly, we recently passed up a great opportunity to grant Palestinian statehood in the UN Security Council because of our idiotic insistance on bowing to Netanyahu's selfish interests yet again. Yes, there would have been residual problems and violence, but we were able to create Kosovo, so there is no reason Palestine should be any different. The Arab world will become more stable and extremism will decrease--and the US will gain new allies from people where it never had any support before. Israel will get in line eventually and start acting responsibly if they realize they've lost our support for their continuously stupid actions.
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