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    D.C. police's search for drugs on D.C. teen is ruled illegal

    By Mary Pat Flaherty
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, June 4, 2010; B01

    A few days before Christmas 2005 at nearly midnight, a uniformed District police officer patrolling the Sursum Corda neighborhood in Northwest heard a 16-year-old on a corner call out his name and ask, "What's up?"

    That was before the yelling.

    And it was the yelling -- not the $974 in cash or the 24 baggies of crack cocaine that police later found on the teenager -- that landed Officer Robert Elliott and the juvenile in a rare but important case before the D.C. Court of Appeals.

    The appeals court said Thursday that the teen had been searched unreasonably after a flawed arrest for disorderly conduct. The decision angered the city's police union and overturned a lower court's decision that concluded that the youth had been disorderly and had crack that he intended to distribute.

    If prosecutors wanted to retry the teenager, identified in court papers as T.L., for drug possession, they "theoretically" were free to do so, the appeals court said. But prosecutors cannot use the crack they found hidden in T.L.'s pants because they had searched him illegally.

    As described in the appeals court opinion:

    Elliott was driving in the 1100 block of First Place NW in the neighborhood near Union Station on Dec. 22, 2005, when he saw men on a corner "notorious" for drive-by shootings and drug dealing.

    T.L. called out, "Hey, Elliott, what's up?" The group dispersed, but T.L. remained as Elliott asked him, "You got any drugs or guns on [you]?"

    T.L. answered, "Yo, Officer Elliott, you know me. I ain't got no drugs or guns. . . . Go ahead and search me."

    Elliott did. He found two "wads" of cash totaling $974 in the teen's coat and pants pockets. Elliott seized the cash, telling T.L. that he was taking it because they were in a high drug-trafficking area and it was "a large amount of currency to have on your person."

    If T.L. could produce a pay stub, Elliott told him, he "possibly" could get the cash back after it was processed at the police station.

    T.L. began calling for his mother and yelling: "They're taking my money. I work at McDonald's. I got that money working for McDonald's."

    Between 10 and 15 people came out of their townhouses to see what was happening.

    To the officer, the gathering crowd was a potential threat. He testified that the growing number of people could be incited and harm bystanders, officers and the teen. Elliott said he considered it "very dangerous" to draw a crowd, "especially in Sursum Corda." Elliott repeatedly told T.L. to quiet down, and when he didn't, he arrested him for disorderly conduct. A search followed, and police found the bags of crack cocaine in T.L.'s pants, according to court papers.

    In explaining the reason for the arrest, the officer and prosecutors pointed to a part of the disorderly conduct statute that covers noise or shouts inside or outside a building during the night that annoy or disturb a "considerable number" of people.

    The appeals court rejected that argument, saying T.L. did not urge the peaceful crowd to interfere. T.L. might have been annoying to his neighbors, but "there is no evidence they were hostile or likely to become violent," so the rationale for his arrest was wrong. Because police had no reason to arrest him, the search that followed was illegal, it said.

    T.L. was adjudicated as involved -- the juvenile court equivalent of guilty -- on the disorderly conduct and drug charges.

    The Public Defender Service appealed. Julie Leighton, spokeswoman for the service, said the office does not comment on appeals cases.

    The appeals court's decision outraged the union representing D.C. officers.

    "At some point, police have to be allowed to be the police," said Kristopher Baumann, head of the labor committee for the local Fraternal Order of Police. "The District of Columbia is never going to get a handle on crime if appellate judges keep substituting their view of what is safe or unsafe in high-drug areas."
    To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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    Well, the cop did a dumb thing, but the kid did give permission to search, though there was no proper probable cause for asking permission to search.

    Its a complicated, tedious thing, but its the rules of search and siezure. Good, smart cops do it right, and they get thier convictions. Its what you get paid good taxpayer money to do.

    Cop needs to chalk it up as lesson learned and drive on and reflect on the fact that he wasted taxpayer money in the legal process because of his desire to hook someone up that night.

    And that's just the way it is. Don't play by the rules, you lose.

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      7thsfsniper Reply

      "...though there was no proper probable cause for asking permission to search."

      He didn't ask permission to search. Asked if he had any drugs or weapon on him. Kid freely offered to allow a search according to the article.
      "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
      "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs

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      • #4
        Originally posted by S-2 View Post
        "...though there was no proper probable cause for asking permission to search."

        He didn't ask permission to search. Asked if he had any drugs or weapon on him. Kid freely offered to allow a search according to the article.
        Exactly. So what what his PC for asking the question in the first place? The kid giving permission to search is nullified by the fact that an LEO just can't roll up and legally ask that question out of the blue.

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        • #5
          7thsfsniper Reply

          "an LEO just can't roll up and legally ask that question out of the blue."

          Wasn't "out of the blue".

          The context was a drug-infested neighborhood and the young man in question initiated the conversation by asking "What's Up?".

          Still...you're the cop. Not I.;)
          "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
          "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs

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          • #6
            Originally posted by S-2 View Post
            "an LEO just can't roll up and legally ask that question out of the blue."

            Wasn't "out of the blue".

            The context was a drug-infested neighborhood and the young man in question initiated the conversation by asking "What's Up?".

            Still...you're the cop. Not I.;)
            Context doesn't matter much in LE, PC does. The law really has no room for guilt by association. You must be complicit.

            What's up? Is a greeting in many instances. Has a friend of yours ever greeted you with "what's up? Your reply would commonly be what? Maybe, "nothin much" or "whats up with you?" Anyone ever said, hey dude, got any drugs on you? or hey dude, you beat your wife lately? or Hey Dude, steal anything good?

            What kind of greetings are these?

            They aren't. We call them "fishing". We hope that some dummy will answer a snap question before realizing who he just said it to.

            This cop don't know how to fish well. Shit happens, you win some, you lose some. worse thing is it ends up on youtube, or on a network so the world can see your fvck up.

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