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    Something to Chew on ....

    I guess if you cling to you Guns and GOD, you might me an "Enemy of the State"

    Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real

    Yesterday, Roger Hedgecock and the Liberty Papers posted an unclassified DHS Office of Intelligence and Analysis report titled:

    Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.


    The “report” (PDF file here) was one of the most embarrassingly shoddy pieces of propaganda I’d ever read out of DHS. I couldn’t believe it was real.

    I spent the day chasing down DHS spokespeople, who have been tied up preparing for a very important homeland security event later today: The First Lady is coming to visit their Washington office. Priorities, you know.

    Well, the press office got back to me and verified that the document is indeed for real.

    They were very defensive — preemptively so — in asserting that it was not a politicized document and that DHS had done reports on “leftwing extremism” in the past. I have covered DHS for many years and am quite familiar with past assessments they and the FBI have done on animal rights terrorists and environmental terrorists. But those past reports have always been very specific in identifying the exact groups, causes, and targets of domestic terrorism, i.e., the ALF, ELF, and Stop Huntingdon wackos who have engaged in physical harassment, arson, vandalism, and worse against pharmaceutical companies, farms, labs, and university researchers.

    By contrast, the piece of crap report issued on April 7 is a sweeping indictment of conservatives. And the intent is clear. As the two spokespeople I talked with on the phone today made clear: They both pinpointed the recent “economic downturn” and the “general state of the economy” for stoking “rightwing extremism.” One of the spokespeople said he was told that the report has been in the works for a year. My b.s. detector went off the chart, and yours will, too, if you read through the entire report — which asserts with no evidence that an unquantified “resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalizations activity” is due to home foreclosures, job losses, and…the historical presidential election.

    In Obama land, there are no coincidences. It is no coincidence that this report echoes Tea Party-bashing left-wing blogs (check this one out comparing the Tea Party movement to the Weather Underground!) and demonizes the very Americans who will be protesting in the thousands on Wednesday for the nationwide Tax Day Tea Party.

    From the report, p.2:

    Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
    From the report. p. 3:

    (U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election as a recruitment tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by these concerns and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election timeframe to the present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and political prejudices in expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider audience of potential sympathizers.

    (U) Exploiting Economic Downturn

    (U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to focus on the economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and construction sectors, and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses to a deliberate conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These “accusatory” tactics are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and further radicalize those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen.
    From the report, p. 5:

    (U//FOUO) Over the past five years, various rightwing extremists, including militias and white supremacists, have adopted the immigration issue as a call to action, rallying point, and recruiting tool. Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment, but in some cases, anti-immigration or strident pro-enforcement fervor has been directed against specific groups and has the potential to turn violent.
    And echoing the anti-military bigotry last seen in that disgusting Penn State University training video, there’s this on p. 7:

    (U) Disgruntled Military Veterans

    (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

    There’s no hackneyed left-wing stereotype of conservatives left behind in this DHS intelligence and analysis assessment. I asked both DHS spokespeople to tell me who, specifically, the report was accusing of “rightwing extremist chatter” and which “antigovernment” groups are being monitored as “extremists.” They say they’ll get back to me.
    In the meantime, be aware of this from the report, p. 8:

    (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months to ascertain with greater regional specificity the rise in rightwing extremist activity in the United States, with a particular emphasis on the political, economic, and social factors that drive rightwing extremist radicalization.
    Better make a few last-minute signs for the Tea Party. Obama’s DHS is watching:

    Honk if you’re a radicalized rightwing extremist!

    Guilty of rightwing extremist chatter

    Anti-government, pro-freedom: Sue me

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    Previous: Missouri retracts report linking militias, 3rd party candidates.

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    Oh, I’m sure DHS will be issuing its report on self-proclaimed bank terrorists like Bruce Marks of NACA and criminal rackeeters harassing private citizens in their homes to “exploit the economic downturn” any day now.
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    RP,

    Something to Chew on ....

    I guess if you cling to you Guns and GOD, you might me an "Enemy of the State"
    don't be ridiculous. it's no surprise that fringe militia groups and nativists have increased popularity during economic downturns.

    have covered DHS for many years and am quite familiar with past assessments they and the FBI have done on animal rights terrorists and environmental terrorists. But those past reports have always been very specific in identifying the exact groups, causes, and targets of domestic terrorism, i.e., the ALF, ELF, and Stop Huntingdon wackos who have engaged in physical harassment, arson, vandalism, and worse against pharmaceutical companies, farms, labs, and university researchers. By contrast, the piece of crap report issued on April 7 is a sweeping indictment of conservatives. And the intent is clear...My b.s. detector went off the chart, and yours will, too, if you read through the entire report — which asserts with no evidence that an unquantified “resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalizations activity” is due to home foreclosures, job losses, and…the historical presidential election.
    too bad the man doesn't have access to classified documents. helps if you have INTELINK-- and he doesn't.
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    • #3
      I suppose my name is on a list somewhere... This does seem a bit silly though, is it real?

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      • #4
        pate,

        This does seem a bit silly though, is it real?
        yes- but the people they're talking about are NOT the conservative couple next door, they're talking about militia groups that believe in overthrowing the government, breaking jewish domination of the media/government conspiarcy, and are affiliated with the KKK. those sorts. anybody here still want to profess solidarity with these great patriotic folks?
        There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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        • #5
          Originally posted by astralis View Post
          pate,



          yes- but the people they're talking about are NOT the conservative couple next door, they're talking about militia groups that believe in overthrowing the government, breaking jewish domination of the media/government conspiarcy, and are affiliated with the KKK. those sorts. anybody here still want to profess solidarity with these great patriotic folks?
          Actually I heard an on point episode about the rhetoric of the far right and things like, a new tea party, take our country back, a new American revolution, Americorps is a re-education camp program and the latest....there are communists in state err I mean socialists in the congress

          http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/20...angry-america/

          it's worth a listen. They just use clips of broadcasts to make the argument. Mickey Edwards represents the conservative voice during the episode. At one point some guy calls up furious calling him a rino or words to the effect. Now to be sure the report isn't referencing fox news hosts but their statements in this episode seem outrageous for a mainstream outlet.
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          • #6
            From many of the people talking about this .....

            http://theloudtalker.com/2009/04/14/...ing-extremism/

            Obama-Nation: Targeting Right-Wing “Extremism”

            Posted by cann0nba11 on April 14, 2009

            UPDATE: The American Legion took offense to this report and wrote an excellent response.

            Holy crap… take a read of Michelle Malkin’s latest article. The Department of Homeland Security has issued a report titled Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment. Queue the Alannis Morrisette CD and ponder how ironic the party of Bill Ayers and Saul Alinsky is concerned that conservatives are getting their dander up. Some quotes from this official DHS report:
            Right wing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented, and those that are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. (p.2)
            Opposition to immigration? Was this written by La Raza, a truly radical and racist group endorsed by the left? Border security proponents are against ILLEGAL immigration. Our country was built on LEGAL immigration. This sentence alone discredits the validity of the report. Anyone that claims that conservatives are against legal immigration is clueless.

            Right wing extremists are harnessing this historical election as a recruitment tool. Many right wing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use. (p.3)

            Recruitment tool? Wasn’t the gist of the Obama campaign all about recruiting people to join Obama’s army? Didn’t little militias pop up with kids dressed in uniforms, singing songs, etc.? But that was cute. That was patriotic. When conservatives exercise their first amendment rights to call b.s. on the far-left stances taken by the Obama administration, that’s right wing extremism. If opposing illegal immigration, increasing handouts to those that are too lazy to work, and expressing concern about the government reducing my second amendment rights, color me guilty and kiss my ass. Joe Biden may think it is “patriotic” for some of us to pay more taxes, I happen to think that defending our Constitution is about as patriotic as it gets.


            Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment, but in some cases, anti-immigration or strident pro-enforcement fervor has been directed against specific groups and has the potential to turn violent. (p.5)
            (Gee Are They Talking About the Minute Men on the border Watch ? RP)

            There it is again: “Anti-immigration.” Is the word “illegal” missing from the DHS vocabulary? Illegal immigration is the problem people, not legal immigration. And talk to me about pro-enforcement fervor. Who in their right mind can find a way to negatively spin American support for enforcing the laws on our books? If I want our borders to actually be BORDERS I’m an anti-immigration right wing extremist?

            Listen up people. This document is the first chapter in a potentially very scary period in our history. By publishing this report DHS is drawing a line in the sand and is specifically calling out conservatives as the target. If this document was only about skinheads, the KKK or other legitimately radical groups I wouldn’t be upset at all. The government has written reports on groups from the other side of the political spectrum such as environmental terrorists or the Weather Underground. But this report is worded vaguely enough to include a huge swath of our population. As Michelle Malkin says in her article:

            “…past reports have always been very specific in identifying the exact groups, causes, and targets of domestic terrorism, i.e., the ALF, ELF, and Stop Huntingdon wackos who have engaged in physical harassment, arson, vandalism, and worse against pharmaceutical companies, farms, labs, and university researchers. By contrast, the piece of crap report issued on April 7 is a sweeping indictment of conservatives.”
            this go posts a good follow up;

            Marting said
            April 14, 2009 at 11:43 am

            Crazy Homeland Security Warning on “Rightwing” authored by Brian Marcus, a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Analyst. Brian Marcus is Analyst, Domestic Terrorism—U.S. Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Department of Homeland Security. This new Homeland Security warning has some of the same information as the “secret” DHS warning that was reported by ABC in 2005 here “Secret FBI Report Highlights Domestic Terror” http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigat...=681288&page=1 . The new document highlighted by Drudge today is a regurgitation of some of the exact same phrases and terminology used in 2005.

            How do these link up. Well Brian Marcus, an Anti-Defamation League (ADL) member, used to work with Brian Levin another ADL member and Director of the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino. Brian Marcus also used to work there in San Bernardino and then went on to the DHS.

            Both Brian’s, Levin and Marcus, knew David B. Deitch another ADL member whose bio is here, http://www.janisschuelke.com/jswp2.htm# and spoke at conferences with the Brian’s and had a relationship with them. David worked for the Counterterrorism Section of the Criminal Division of the Justice Department and is the one who screwed up the trial of the Lodi terrorists, see here http://truthinjustice.org/hamid-hayat.htm . It appears to me that David leaked the 2005 DHS document to one of the Brian’s who then gave it to ABC. And, Brian Levin is quoted by ABC in their report.

            How did they come to putting out the current crazy report. Well, the initial report came out of the government and ADL following and tracking White Supremacists. The ADL shared data with the DHS and gathered at conferences together. The internet is full of their actions, most of which seem worthy. However, it appears that Brian Marcus’ political viewpoint and leanings are now bleeding through in the current crazy report. Until the very young Brian Marcus (you can find a cached version of him with plugs in his balding scalp) joined DHS he was occupied with following online “hate speech” and cyber bullying, particularly of jewish youngsters. All that is fine, but Brian has taken a massive leap from low level net watcher to author of this poorly written and crazy document.

            Tracking white supremacists may be a worthy cause but this Homeland Security document is so poorly written it makes anyone who believes in gun rights, is anti-abortion, or dislikes Obama to be a potential terrorist. When you use the term “rightwing” you are using a pejorative term that all conservatives are called by liberals. So to conservatives, like me, it sounds like Brian Marcus is telling people to be afraid of all conservatives. Crazy.

            So, when you see FBI agents or others taking your photo or writing down your license plates (as was reported yesterday by a Freeper) know you are going into the DHS database. Make sure you smile for your photo.

            PS I wrote Brian Marcus at the DHS and explained that I will be leaving out of the country on vacation for a few days and so I asked him to please not put me on any watch lists as I need to be able to fly to my short cruise. :)
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            • #7
              Oklahoma city, what Malkin thinks that was arabs?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Roosveltrepub View Post
                Oklahoma city, what Malkin thinks that was arabs?

                Clearly your subscription to 'Right Wing Conspiracy Nut Monthly' has lapsed RR. It has been an article of faith for some time now in certain circles that Nicholls & McVeigh were working with Al Qaeda. Imagine, it wasn't really American far rightwing nutjobs, but those damn dirty muzlins. PHEW!

                http://bizblogger.blogspot.com/2005/...y-bombing.html

                Oh, and I love the constant references in the marting piece to the ADF. We all know what THAT means (nudge nudge, wink wink).
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bigfella View Post
                  Clearly your subscription to 'Right Wing Conspiracy Nut Monthly' has lapsed RR. It has been an article of faith for some time now in certain circles that Nicholls & McVeigh were working with Al Qaeda.


                  never heard that connection .........

                  seems like a stretch to me


                  it seems like the follow up poster, Marting, is merely pointing out this guy Brian Marcus, who was a low level flunky following White Hate Groups ( a problem in this country ) has now risen to the level where he is authoring larger reports trying to state and group on the right side of the political spectrum ie Tea Party Groups .... are potential domestic terrorists ... just because they are dissatisfied with the current spending Whores running the Gobberment (yeah I was not happy when RINO's did the same thing 8 yrs previously)

                  if B Marcus is a member in ADL, it might explain his keen interest in WP Groups .... but does not matter, I was not looking at that aspect of his status .... i guess we all see which parts we want to .......
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                  • #10
                    DHS Report on Radical Leftest Groups ...

                    OK .... posting the analysis from DHS on leftist extremist groups ...


                    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...ist_Threat.pdf


                    (U//FOUO) DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines leftwing extremists as groups or individuals who embrace radical elements of the anarchist, animal rights, or environmental movements and are often willing to violate the law to achieve their objectives. Many leftwing extremist groups are not hierarchically ordered with defined members, leaders, or chain of command structures but operate as loosely-connected underground movements composed of “lone wolves,” small cells, and splinter groups.

                    — (U//LES) Animal rights and environmental extremists seek to end the perceived abuse and suffering of animals and the degradation of the natural environment perpetrated by humans. They use non-violent and violent tactics that, at times, violate criminal law. Many of these extremists claim they are conducting these activities on behalf of two of the most active groups, the Animal Liberation Front and its sister organization, the Earth Liberation Front. Other prominent groups include Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty; and chapters within the Animal Defense League, and Earth First!

                    — (U//FOUO) Anarchist extremists generally embrace a number of radical philosophical components of anticapitalist, antiglobalization, communist, socialist, and other movements. Anarchist groups seek abolition of social, political, and economic hierarchies, including Western-style governments and large business enterprises, and frequently advocate criminal actions of varying scale and scope to accomplish their goals. Anarchist extremist groups include entities within CrimethincUSPER, the Ruckus SocietyUSPER ,and Recreate 68 USPER

                    funny thing though ... the report states that further expected attacks are cyber in nature, when ALF, ELF has burned down how many condos, housing projects ... research facilities .....
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                    • #11
                      from Southern MD Online'

                      http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...rpc=22&sp=true

                      Right wing extremism...



                      Right-wing extremists in the United States are gaining new recruits by exploiting fears about the economy and the election of the first black U.S. president, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report to law enforcement officials.
                      "Right wing extremists" is a term that is supposed to scare up images of the Klan and Nazi's. There is certainly some truth to that, however, considering the widespread racism in the Democrat party, it is a distaction far more than an accurate description.

                      By far, the most common link among right wing 'extremists' is a belief in the constitution. Unless you are one of those folks who think the constitution itself is an extremist document, it's not fair nor accurate to dismiss those that believe in it as 'extreme' especially given that an oath to it is sworn by our elected leaders.

                      Further, you're not going to see right wing 'extremists' up in arms over Justice Clarence Thomas or Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams or any number of other black folks who also happen to be rather conservative and rather big fans of the constitution. Any problems with Obama begin and end with his politics.

                      So, the department of homeland security, George Bush's bastard child, is now on the lookout for people who support the constitution and don't like liberals and their ideas, regardless of their skin color. Great.

                      Now, the constitution. Do you support it? Do you think it is the back bone of law and order and the guarantor of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the citizens of this nation AND the bulwark against an extremist government that has little real regard for it?

                      Or, are you one of those who see it as quaint, outdated and just a collection of suggestions to be occasionally studied in school?

                      If so, where does your sense of justice actually reside? Where is your basis for right and wrong? What is it based on?

                      and no this is not my Nom de Gurre ....on SOMD


                      It doesn't matter to who initiated the reports. The way the groups are defined is obviously biased.

                      Here, you have leftwing extremist groups as "splinter groups", "lone wolves", "small cells". They're considered small factions of the US society...

                      Quote:
                      DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines leftwing extremists as groups or individuals who embrace radical elements of the anarchist, animal rights, or environmental movements and are often willing to violate the law to achieve their objectives. Many leftwing extremist groups are not hierarchically ordered with defined members, leaders, or chain of command structures but operate as loosely-connected underground movements composed of “lone wolves,” small cells, and splinter groups.



                      ...while the Rightwing Extremists are considered to be (among other things) anyone "rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority".

                      Quote:
                      "Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in f
                      avor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely

                      The definition of "Rightwing Extremism" is not defined in the same narrow terms as the "Leftwing Extremism". Additionally, they define anyone who wants SMALLER GOVERNMENT as an extremist! That group is NOT a small faction of the US Society. This report is basically saying that the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is rightwing extremism.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RadioPatrol View Post
                        never heard that connection .........

                        seems like a stretch to me
                        Perhaps you are not enough of a right wing nut.

                        it seems like the follow up poster, Marting, is merely pointing out this guy Brian Marcus, who was a low level flunky following White Hate Groups ( a problem in this country ) has now risen to the level where he is authoring larger reports trying to state and group on the right side of the political spectrum ie Tea Party Groups .... are potential domestic terrorists ... just because they are dissatisfied with the current spending Whores running the Gobberment (yeah I was not happy when RINO's did the same thing 8 yrs previously)

                        if B Marcus is a member in ADL, it might explain his keen interest in WP Groups .... but does not matter, I was not looking at that aspect of his status .... i guess we all see which parts we want to .....

                        It wasn't so much the mention of Marcus being at the ADL that got me, as all the other mentions it kept getting - 'he knew this person in the ADL & that person in the ADL...' etc. Whenever I see this sort of thing popping up as often as it does here (something like 5 mentions in a very short article) little flags pop up.

                        I get the same reaction to equivalent left wing stuff.
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                        • #13
                          RP,

                          re-read it. page 3 states what you mentioned, but page 4-5 states why cyber attacks are likely to expand more dramatically.
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                          • #14
                            Oh noes, there's a red under mah computah's bed!

                            Seriously, has there ever been a genuine left-wing terrorist assault on the public in the US?

                            Homegrown American terrorism always seems to me to be more of the 'militia vs government' style as emphasised by right wing libertarians (McVeigh is the prime example I suppose).
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by crooks View Post
                              Oh noes, there's a red under mah computah's bed!

                              Seriously, has there ever been a genuine left-wing terrorist assault on the public in the US?

                              Homegrown American terrorism always seems to me to be more of the 'militia vs government' style as emphasised by right wing libertarians (McVeigh is the prime example I suppose).
                              What do you mean by "left wing?"

                              If left-wing means anti-government socialist and NOT part of the "right wing" militia, then yes, we have had plenty. Our esteemed president is close friends with one such man. Of course Barry downplayed their relationship and the said terrorist "renounced" his ways years ago.
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